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Another foreign quagmire in the making: Obama & Ukraine


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Learned something new about SAMs, that frankly surprised that DC Tom didn't volunteer at first. Missiles don't hit the planes, but explode in close proximity to maximize damage.

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Learned something new about SAMs, that frankly surprised that DC Tom didn't volunteer at first. Missiles don't hit the planes, but explode in close proximity to maximize damage.

 

Seriously?

 

But SAM warheads are usually proximity-detonated fragmentation types, designed to damage targets with a pattern of steel fragments at a standoff distance.

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So now Russia does the expected thing and bans food imports from countries sanctioning it. This will cost an already shaky EU billions of its most important export. All of this anti-free trade tick for tack will hurt the entire world economy. This in addition to triggering an ongoing civil war.

 

And this economic cost and bloodshed was worth it to over throw a democratically elected leader?

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/06/world/europe/russia-ukraine-crisis/index.html?c=intl-homepage-t

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Yeah, banning food imports is just a fantastic thing to do when you need to import food to feed your people. Putin is a bigger fool than I gave him credit for.

 

At least Russians are used to standing in bread lines. Might bring back all their Soviet-era nostalgia.

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Yeah, banning food imports is just a fantastic thing to do when you need to import food to feed your people. Putin is a bigger fool than I gave him credit for.

 

At least Russians are used to standing in bread lines. Might bring back all their Soviet-era nostalgia.

It will help the domestic producers, and they can increase imports from non-EU countries, with whom they share many borders. But yes ultimately there will be a cost to Russia, the EU, and the US. But politically its a move putin has to make.

 

So both sides are locked in a costly tit for tat that neither side wants. In a word its "sh#tty" diplomacy.

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It will help the domestic producers, and they can increase imports from non-EU countries, with whom they share many borders. But yes ultimately there will be a cost to Russia, the EU, and the US. But politically its a move putin has to make.

 

So both sides are locked in a costly tit for tat that neither side wants. In a word its "sh#tty" diplomacy.

 

No the move Putin has to make is to get the !@#$ out of the Ukraine.

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