thebandit27 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 No the compensation was wrong. Stevie was not traded Let's not pick nits here...he had the trade partner correct and the target correct; nobody had a clue about compensation beforehand. As I said, I heard Jacksonville for a 2nd and a pick next year, which also turned out to be incorrect on compensation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 No the compensation was wrong. Stevie was not traded not yet.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 not yet.... We'll see, but nothing the Bills have done or said indicates that they don't want Stevie anymore. In fact, everything they've done suggests the opposite. Just so you know, we would lose $3.5 million in cap money if we trade Stevie this year. We paid him a $1.7 million bonus in March. He won't be traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Let's not pick nits here...he had the trade partner correct and the target correct; nobody had a clue about compensation beforehand. As I said, I heard Jacksonville for a 2nd and a pick next year, which also turned out to be incorrect on compensation. Whaley said they had multiple conversations and the final compensation wasn't decided until Cleveland had about 5 minutes left on the clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 We'll see, but nothing the Bills have done or said indicates that they don't want Stevie anymore. In fact, everything they've done suggests the opposite. Just so you know, we would lose $3.5 million in cap money if we trade Stevie this year. We paid him a $1.7 million bonus in March. He won't be traded. other than drafting Robert Woods, signing Mike Williams and drafting Sammy Watkins I agree with ya (laffin) I do agree they will not "cut" stevie because of his dead money......but they would trade him for peanuts to dump his salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Whaley said they had multiple conversations and the final compensation wasn't decided until Cleveland had about 5 minutes left on the clock. That would make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 (edited) other than drafting Robert Woods, signing Mike Williams and drafting Sammy Watkins I agree with ya (laffin) I do agree they will not "cut" stevie because of his dead money......but they would trade him for peanuts to dump his salary. Perhaps you should think your answers through. Are you aware that Marrone brought Stevie and Andre Reed with him to pick up Mike Williams at the airport? Are you aware Marrone called Stevie personally to tell him any rumors about Stevie's future on the team were false? Are you aware that they paid Stevie Johnson a $2 million dollar bonus? If it was about cash they never would have given him that money. Yeah those sound like things you do for players that you want off your team. Edited May 9, 2014 by Fingon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Perhaps you should think your answers through. Are you aware that Marrone brought Stevie and Andre Reed with him to pick up Mike Williams at the airport? Are you aware Marrone called Stevie personally to tell him any rumors about Stevie's future on the team were false? Are you aware that they paid Stevie Johnson a $2 million dollar bonus? If it was about cash they never would have given him that money. Yeah those sound like things you do for players that you want off your team. the fact remains that stevie has the second highest cap hit on the team and isn't even one of our top ten players. he is at risk of getting moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 the fact remains that stevie has the second highest cap hit on the team and isn't even one of our top ten players. he is at risk of getting moved. Hah so lets move him because he has a high cap hit so he can have an even higher one? Makes perfect sense, especially since we are all so sure about Mike Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 A awful lot of people here owe Kiper's an apology, or at least an acknowledgement. Kudos, Kiper's! Hah so lets move him because he has a high cap hit so he can have an even higher one? Makes perfect sense, especially since we are all so sure about Mike Williams. Stevie, is it you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 If Sammy Watkins is there at 4, the Bills will trade their 1st, 2nd and Stevie Johnson to Cleveland for the rights to take Sammy Watkins. Something could change, but as of today, this is on the table...Not sure this makes us better, but they see something in Sammy and envision a long term relationship with EJ and him. If Sammy is not there, they are more than happy with Matthews or Ebron at 9. Nice call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 A awful lot of people here owe Kiper's an apology, or at least an acknowledgement. Kudos, Kiper's! Stevie, is it you? Yes, lets trade our 3x 1,000 yard slot receiver for a mid round pick AND lose $3.5 million in cap space. That sounds like the best trade ever. They should make people take IQ tests before they can post here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Nice call Excellent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Props to this poster. Legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Wow....legit. Not that far off. I wonder: was Stevie taken off the table by us, or by Cleveland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuvtalker Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Much credit given to where much credit is due....great call Kipers Hair!!! And a great pick by the Buffalo Bills!! 2014 is our year!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXBILLSFAN Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Yes, lets trade our 3x 1,000 yard slot receiver for a mid round pick AND lose $3.5 million in cap space. That sounds like the best trade ever. They should make people take IQ tests before they can post here. Overthecap.com says cap hit would be a $25,000 savings if we cut/traded Stevie. At this point, might as well keep him and try and deal him next year. As for IQ tests, I'm all in, but let's start with the Bills FO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Wow....legit. Not that far off. I wonder: was Stevie taken off the table by us, or by Cleveland? Kiper's Hair may have different insight, but I'm told he wasn't really a consideration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Impressive. To be fair, teams throw out all sorts of stuff to create false rumors AND to test the waters for potential trades. Impressive nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 (edited) Yes, lets trade our 3x 1,000 yard slot receiver for a mid round pick AND lose $3.5 million in cap space. That sounds like the best trade ever. They should make people take IQ tests before they can post here. That's not the point. The point is Kiper's had credible inside information, and those that disparaged him were WRONG. Edited May 9, 2014 by HoF Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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