MaineMoxie Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 New study uses aerospace and mechanical engineering modeling to demonstrate the effect of the holder on field goal accuracy. When I was at UB I majored in aerospace and mechanical engineering and took a class with Bill Rae where we analyzed the motion of how football's moved through the air (we focused on thrown balls). This is the first time I've seen anyone look at field goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Holy Ace Ventura Pet Detective, Batshiteman! I've never heard anything like this ever before! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimp Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 So, Frank's fault? Interesting http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/25656/20-years-gone-bills-title-drifted-wide-right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAF43 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Laces out Dan!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 So, Frank's fault? Interesting http://espn.go.com/b...fted-wide-right I've heard this discussed before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Holy Ace Ventura Pet Detective, Batshiteman! I've never heard anything like this ever before! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibuya Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 I always blamed our D for their constant over pursuit of Giants RB's allowing constant cut back yardage for big gains Norwood was just the final kick in the balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Laces out Dan!!!!!!!!!!!!! i said it right when I saw the replay....the balls laces wee not pointed toward the goal posts but to the side.....this causes a weight imbalance and the ball hooks slightly to the ....right.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOFO Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 In related articles, at the bottom "why rooting for losers may save your life"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineMoxie Posted September 9, 2013 Author Share Posted September 9, 2013 I've heard this discussed before. Apparently I missed that discussion. Or maybe I had it back in 1990 and just blocked it out of my memory like everything else about that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 It never should have come down to a last-second FG which was outside of the range of the Bills' kicker (he'd never made a kick over 45 yards on grass before). But yes, it was Reich's fault on that kick, and the rest of the team for putting themselves in that position. That was the one SB they should have won. The rest they faced better teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 (edited) The order of blame is well understood... 1. Talley - worst game of a seriously overrated career 2. Wright - Smerlas today probably could have held the point of attack better 3. The rest of the defense not named Brice Smith - as mentioned above, overpursuit and missed tackles by the LB's and secondary 4. Levy - outcoached before and during the game 5. Norwood - he should not have been in that situation. If Thurman touches the ball 6-8 more times the Bills win by 10+ 6. Kelly - Kept throwing in a game where Thurman could have run for 175. I know the playbook said if they keep their LB's in we should throw but it was obvious by the second quarter they were sitting on the crossing routes. The o-line was gashing them and the LB's were playing pass first. Any draw or counter and they were on their heels. Edited September 9, 2013 by Dragonborn10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 The order of blame is well understood... 1. Talley - worst game of a seriously overrated career 2. Wright - Smerlas today probably could have held the point of attack better 3. The rest of the defense not named Brice Smith - as mentioned above, overpursuit and missed tackles by the LB's and secondary 4. Levy - outcoached before and during the game 5. Norwood - he should not have been in that situation. If Thurman touches the ball 6-8 more times the Bills win by 10+ 6. Kelly - Kept throwing in a game where Thurman could have run for 175. I know the playbook said if they keep their LB's in we should throw but it was obvious by the second quarter they were sitting on the crossing routes. The o-line was gashing them and the LB's were playing pass first. Any draw or counter and they were on their heels. This is a good analysis of that game, except I don't think Talley was overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Drinking until the wee hours the morning of the SB also didn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PearlHowardman Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 The Giants actually own Scott Norwood's SB XXV jersey and put it on display in Metlife Stadium. That was the one SB they should have won. They could have won the 4th. Dallas was playing like absolute s**t and the Bills had the LEAD and MOMENTUM. Then Thurman fumbled the ball after Leon Lett of Dallas barely touch the ball Thurman was carrying. Then....you remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 I actually have always held it against Frank Reich a bit that he didn't take more of a position of responsibility for the fact that the laces faced to the right on his hold. You'd think with Reich supposedly being such a paragon of virtue that he'd have been a bit more accountable, if only to take some of the burden off Norwood. Correct me if I'm wrong but I can't remember Reich ever commenting on the infamous kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 LACES OUT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 The order of blame is well understood... 1. Talley - worst game of a seriously overrated career 2. Wright - Smerlas today probably could have held the point of attack better 3. The rest of the defense not named Brice Smith - as mentioned above, overpursuit and missed tackles by the LB's and secondary 4. Levy - outcoached before and during the game 5. Norwood - he should not have been in that situation. If Thurman touches the ball 6-8 more times the Bills win by 10+ 6. Kelly - Kept throwing in a game where Thurman could have run for 175. I know the playbook said if they keep their LB's in we should throw but it was obvious by the second quarter they were sitting on the crossing routes. The o-line was gashing them and the LB's were playing pass first. Any draw or counter and they were on their heels. Walt Corey was outcoached bad. Always thought he was the weak link on the coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Laces out Dan!!!!!!!!!!!!! ROFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 I actually have always held it against Frank Reich a bit that he didn't take more of a position of responsibility for the fact that the laces faced to the right on his hold. You'd think with Reich supposedly being such a paragon of virtue that he'd have been a bit more accountable, if only to take some of the burden off Norwood. Correct me if I'm wrong but I can't remember Reich ever commenting on the infamous kick. Yes cause only people who are openly religious should be expected to tell the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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