BringBackFergy Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Now Bobby knows how Georgia Frontiere, Jeffrey Lurie, and Jerry Richardson feel. ......and Mario Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 I heard that Bob Kraft lost the ring the same way that Richard Gere lost the gerbil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 uh, Soviets? In 2005? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted June 16, 2013 Author Share Posted June 16, 2013 Yes... http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/25924-pats-super-bowl-ring-stolen My apologies. YE OLE should have perhaps added this to the thread from 2005. The NY Post story that was linked was just published on the 14th. Thought it was interesting that Kraft now claims it was stolen and blames the WH for strong arming him into the original story he portrayed. How very strange to come out with this now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 (edited) More on the story: http://profootballta...uper-bowl-ring/ "What Mr. Kraft is saying now is weird,” spokesman Dmitry Peskov said. “I was standing 20 centimeters away from him and Mr. Putin and saw and heard how Mr. Kraft gave this ring as a gift.” The Russians say the ring is on display with other state gifts at the Kremlin. On one hand, you can't put too much value in the testimony of Putin's spokesman. On the other hand, at least the ring is on display at the Kremlin and not in Putin's "personal collection." I wonder in the wake of this controversy if the ring will make it back to Kraft? Edited June 16, 2013 by San Jose Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 More on the story: http://profootballta...uper-bowl-ring/ "What Mr. Kraft is saying now is weird,” spokesman Dmitry Peskov said. “I was standing 20 centimeters away from him and Mr. Putin and saw and heard how Mr. Kraft gave this ring as a gift.” The Russians say the ring is on display with other state gifts at the Kremlin. On one hand, you can't put too much value in the testimony of Putin's spokesman. On the other hand, at least the ring is on display at the Kremlin and not in Putin's "personal collection." Miscommunication perhaps but I can't wrap my head around Kraft saying "here, take my ring" especially now that he has denied offering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Bush strong armed Kraft into saying it was a gift. It's a story now because Kraft was recently recounting how it really went down. He let Putin try it on and Putin pocketed and walked out. Not much Kraft could do about it then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 (edited) Miscommunication perhaps but I can't wrap my head around Kraft saying "here, take my ring" especially now that he has denied offering I agree with you that I believe Kraft's version over Putin's version. Usually when a gift is going to be offered to a head of state or high ranking representative of a country the arrangement is going to be made in advance. Apparently that wasn't done here. Maybe this conflicting interpretation of the situation can be attributed to poor communication and language interpretation? Or maybe it was just Putin's thug attitude on display? From what I understand Kraft has some business interests in Russia. So I'm sure he is reluctant to get entangled with the Russian strongman. To put it mildly it is a tough environment to be involved in. Edited June 16, 2013 by JohnC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glory Bound Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 (edited) Two thoughts on this: 20 centimeters equals 7.974". People usually don't stand that close to someone. Also, would you hand something extremely valuable & high in sentimental value to a known communist? Edited June 16, 2013 by Glory Bound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Bush strong armed Kraft into saying it was a gift. It's a story now because Kraft was recently recounting how it really went down. He let Putin try it on and Putin pocketed and walked out. Not much Kraft could do about it then. Putin probably figured that Kraft only brought it to present as a gift. And that when it was clear Kraft wasn't getting it back, Dubya told him to say it was a gift. The questions are: how many SB winning owners have visited Putin, have they brought their SB rings, and were they stolen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Putin probably figured that Kraft only brought it to present as a gift. And that when it was clear Kraft wasn't getting it back, Dubya told him to say it was a gift. The questions are: how many SB winning owners have visited Putin, have they brought their SB rings, and were they stolen? It doesn't look like Putin thought it was a gift. He asked to try it on, pocketed it, and walked out. Kraft is the first and likely only NFL owner to visit Putin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 It doesn't look like Putin thought it was a gift. He asked to try it on, pocketed it, and walked out. Kraft is the first and likely only NFL owner to visit Putin. Agree on both fronts. The rooneys may be the only other if I had to guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph W. Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 (edited) Glad it was stolen, Putin should have stolen Brady while he was at it. "Oh so this is Tom Brady... Let me try him on, pocket and gone." Edited June 16, 2013 by EJ3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Two thoughts on this: 20 centimeters equals 7.974". People usually don't stand that close to someone. Check out the link I provided. There's a photo which might be Kraft, the spokesman, and Putin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glory Bound Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Check out the link I provided. There's a photo which might be Kraft, the spokesman, and Putin. Ok, I'll give his cohort the 20 centimeter thing, but I will never believe Kraft gave Putin the ring as a gift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Ok, I'll give his cohort the 20 centimeter thing, but I will never believe Kraft gave Putin the ring as a gift. I also don't think the ring was a gift to Putin. My early reaction was what JohnC said about it possibly being a cultural/language misunderstanding. Mostly I think it was a brazen act of larceny by Putin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glory Bound Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 I also don't think the ring was a gift to Putin. My early reaction was what JohnC said about it possibly being a cultural/language misunderstanding. Mostly I think it was a brazen act of larceny by Putin. Agreed, & Putin has a golden opportunity to make Kraft look bad by issuing a statement along these lines... "We understand that sometimes people have a change of heart when giving gifts, we will therefore return the ring to Mr. Kraft." I wouldn't be surprised if this happens. Kraft should have cut his losses & kept the matter to himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 I doubt Putin gives it back. And Kraft can't sue to get it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Putin and his KGB past...he is a thug and a petty crook. Reminds me of a cheesy 30s gangster flick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Country full of criminals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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