xsoldier54 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I still like Wilson. He didn't overwhelm at the Senior Bowl, but he didn't play badly either. I like his leadership skills and he seems to be able to make all the throws. He's my guy for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I like Manuel as well. HIs highlight reel is outstanding. 5-0 in bowl games. Oh yes I did count the Senior Bowl as a win...lol Like Jimbo, he played his college ball in FLA. I'll take that as a sign he's the QB we've been waiting 17 years for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 5-0 in bowl games. Oh yes I did count the Senior Bowl as a win...lol Like Jimbo, he played his college ball in FLA. I'll take that as a sign he's the QB we've been waiting 17 years for. Didn`t he throw for a earth shattering 14 tds this year ? HMNN....He looked really stiff and robotic in games I saw this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) My Pre-Combine Top 3 now goes: 1. Smith 2. Wilson 3. Barkley Id be willing to trade up for Smith, or take any of those at 8. Any other QB, Id wait until the 2nd round or later. Edited January 27, 2013 by DrDareustein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Didn`t he throw for a earth shattering 14 tds this year ? HMNN....He looked really stiff and robotic in games I saw this year. Wrong... 23 Passing TDs, 2 Rushing TDs, 10 INTs, 156 QBR, 68% COMP ...that's good for a kid who found out his Mom had breast cancer in September before the season started. That tells me the dude is mentally strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 My first Senior bowl and it was a yawner . Theyre all fairly boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 My Pre-Combine Top 3 now goes: 1. Smith 2. Wilson 3. Barkley Id be willing to trade up for Smith, or take any of those at 8. Any other QB, Id wait until the 2nd round or later. one of these will be there in the 2nd. I say we go best Wr in the 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReturnoftheBuffaloBeast23 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) I don't get all the Nassib love.. Before Doug Marrone came here nobody new about Nassib now Marrone is here everybody wants him REALLY THO? He's not that great he's reminds me of Weeden look how that turned out.. If he's there in the 3rd why not but please not 1st or 2nd... 1. Geno 2. Wilson or Manuel 3. Colin Klien Edited January 27, 2013 by ReturnoftheBuffaloBeast23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 one of these will be there in the 2nd. I say we go best Wr in the 1st JMO, but I doubt it. I think we'll see at least 1 QB picked before us, and a run on them in the late-1st/early-2nd. If we like a guy, pick him at #8 and ensure we get our player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mEAz Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Landry Jones in the 2nd please. In the video I have seen, he is the only qb making multiple reads, regularly looking off db's, and pump faking. The rest of the QB's in the draft are first read or run all day. Jones is the safest bet of them all. He is the most accurate of them all regardless of numbers, quick release, nice footwork, and an arm to make all of the throws. My pick all day You need to watch more video...Jones may be the best example of a system QB in this draft....big numbers, terrible intagibles...yes he has a big arm and a lot of experience, but if there is a rusher within two yards of him, he panics, can't reset his feet and looks terrible....I think we can all agree that you need a guy that can face the pressure in the NFL because there are very few 'clean' pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I don't get all the Nassib love.. Before Doug Marrone came here nobody new about Nassib now Marrone is here everybody wants him REALLY THO? He's not that great he's reminds me of Weeden look how that turned out.. If he's there in the 3rd why not but please not 1st or 2nd... 1. Geno 2. Wilson or Manuel 3. Colin Klien In fairness, the poll doesnt say he has to be our 1st pick. Just asks which QB we should draft, at some point. I voted for Nassib with the opinion he should be a 3rd round choice as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Geno Smith was very wise to skip thus crapfest of a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I think EJ Manuel looks much more like a NFL QB than either Wilson or Nassib who both look like products of college "dink and dunk" system QBs. I normally don't like posting highlight videos, but just look at Manuel in 2011 and see the footwork and comfort level in and out of the pocket. Plus his throwing motion looks much better than Wilson's and Nassib's. I don't necessarily have a problem with Manuel but those clips didn't do much to help his cause. I didn't see a single snap taken under center and highlights against some of the worst schools in D1 don't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Wrong... 23 Passing TDs, 2 Rushing TDs, 10 INTs, 156 QBR, 68% COMP ...that's good for a kid who found out his Mom had breast cancer in September before the season started. That tells me the dude is mentally strong. Must have been looking at last yrs stat. This moves him up to a solid 3rd rd pick now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) You should understand this site by now. Everybody immediately drinks the Syracuse koolaide and is all in for the Bills becoming that college team out of Syracuse. The problem is, they have to compete with NFL teams, and not college teams. It looks like another long fruitless year ahead with a college coaching staff (except for DC) in way over their heads. Homerism is us. New Boss, same as the old Boss... Drink up! Nassib beat Geno Smith 3 years in a row and Smith looked horrific in the weather conditions he'll be playing in in Buffalo so by your logic Nassib's the better QB. See, it is simple! Edited January 27, 2013 by Mike in Syracuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimp 2 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 So who do you want know after watching the Senior Bowl? Mine really haven't changed because these all-stars games per se the practices & interviews reveal more IMO. So I'm sticking to my ranking for the upcoming draft 1st RD- G. Smith, T. Wilson (Both mid - late 1st rd) 2-3 RD- Manuel, Glennon, Barkley, Jones, Bray 4-5 RD- Nassib maybe here 6- Priority FA- rest of the bunch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mEAz Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 See the player A vs. Player B graphics. Can't get them here. Now, whom would you say is better, the player who has twice eclipsed 8 YPA, or the one who hasn't? The one whose completion percentage improved every year to a startling 71.2%, or the one whose plateaued around 66%? The one who never threw over 7 INTs per season, or the one who averaged around 12.5 INTs? The one whose rating hovered around the mid 140s, or the one who improved every season up to about 164? Player A is Jones. Player B is Geno Smith. The only stats I see Jones winning out on are career passing yardage, which is in part because he was subbing for an injured Bradford his first year, and sacks taken, which I will chalk up to a better OU offensive line. I rest my case. Edit: working on the look of this. Hold on. Excellent post...no one seems to look at ypa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpperDeck Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I think EJ Manuel looks much more like a NFL QB than either Wilson or Nassib who both look like products of college "dink and dunk" system QBs. I normally don't like posting highlight videos, but just look at Manuel in 2011 and see the footwork and comfort level in and out of the pocket. Plus his throwing motion looks much better than Wilson's and Nassib's. It looked to me like he only looked at his primary receiver on every play. I don't watch a lot of college ball so maybe this is typical. But this makes me wonder if he could transition to the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) Must have been looking at last yrs stat. This moves him up to a solid 3rd rd pick now. LOL, EJ Manuel will not make it out of the first round. I could easily see a team that you'd have no idea were looking for a QB taking him in the back of the 1st round, the ones I came up with are...Bears, Vikings, Texans, Patriots. The NFL has become a league that begins and ends with the QB position. If there's a QB that has the all around size, athleticism and talents of EJ Manuel (very closely resembling Colin Kaepernick's) there for the taking and you have questions at QB but you're still a playoff quality team...well...let's just say that the "experts" seeing him as a 2nd or 3rd rounder will not see it coming. They're behind the times. I could easily see the Patriots taking EJ Manuel with their first round pick and blowing the "experts" mind with the genius of the move. Tom Brady is a 35 year old man who just built a mega castle in CA and who clearly seems to be only a year or two away from retirement. I know they have Mallett, but I don't think for a second they'll be betting the franchise on him alone. Edited January 27, 2013 by 1billsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I changed my vote to Barkley (although after watching some more Geno Smith video I'd be just as happy with him). His performance at the Senior Bowl doesn't scare me a bit. FWIW, Sr Bowl performance wouldn't count for more than a 5-10% swing in my opinion of a guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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