Kelly the Dog Posted January 5, 2013 Author Share Posted January 5, 2013 Manziel's quite artistic in the same way that a point guard is in basketball. He creates angles and leverages that most quarterbacks don't see, because they don't create them. How would you feel about Manziel if you heard a pro scout say (next year), "he's a slightly larger version of Russell Wilson?" He's not. At all. There were more than a few things about Russell Wilson that belie his height, Johnny Football has none of those things. Manziel does other things really well though that help his game. But Wilson is different than other short guys because he has an absolute cannon for an arm, he throws perfectly over his head, he has a great knack for finding throwing lanes with a quick release while standing in the pocket, he has long arms and huge hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 (edited) Not sure if anyone has posted this but can we draft this guy this year? Don't care if he is a freshman I'll wait. This guy is pretty damn good! Edited January 5, 2013 by Dante Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 He's not. At all. There were more than a few things about Russell Wilson that belie his height, Johnny Football has none of those things. Manziel does other things really well though that help his game. But Wilson is different than other short guys because he has an absolute cannon for an arm, he throws perfectly over his head, he has a great knack for finding throwing lanes with a quick release while standing in the pocket, he has long arms and huge hands. Is that you Buddy? It's too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Agree jones will be a 5th round pick ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 He's not. At all. There were more than a few things about Russell Wilson that belie his height, Johnny Football has none of those things. Manziel does other things really well though that help his game. But Wilson is different than other short guys because he has an absolute cannon for an arm, he throws perfectly over his head, he has a great knack for finding throwing lanes with a quick release while standing in the pocket, he has long arms and huge hands. They're both great athletes who can hurt you with their legs and use their legs to extend plays to break down the defense. They're both accurate throwers. They're both creative in their ad libs. Neither has prototypical size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Jones...get yer chit together son...you're better than this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLBighits Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Fitzy 2.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 They're both great athletes who can hurt you with their legs and use their legs to extend plays to break down the defense. They're both accurate throwers. They're both creative in their ad libs. Neither has prototypical size. So anyways Kelly, I wasn't saying that they're the identical player. Only that they have some remarkable similarities. IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 5, 2013 Author Share Posted January 5, 2013 They're both great athletes who can hurt you with their legs and use their legs to extend plays to break down the defense. They're both accurate throwers. They're both creative in their ad libs. Neither has prototypical size. True but there are a lot of college QBs who lack size that are great in college but cannot do it in the NFL because they don't have cannons for arms (Manziel has a good arm, not a cannon, and he wins up to throw it hard or deep, which will kill him and kills almost all other smaller guys in the pros), he doesn't have the knack for finding throwing lanes, he runs around and throws sidearm and off his back foot (which gets guys killed in the NFL), he doesn't have the great throwing motion or long arms and mechanics, which allows Wilson to get the ball out higher than his 5'11" guy but more like a 6'2" guy. I love Johnny Football, don't get me wrong, but Wilson was a freak. Manziel is a Flutie kind of guy, although more accurate (and Flutie would have a little harder time now that players seem to average an inch or two more in height across the board than when he played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 (edited) Fitzy 2.0 Really? Fitz wishes he was as good as Jones worst day. Edited January 5, 2013 by Buffalo Barbarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 BTW, in spite of his very unorthodox throwing style (what some would characterize as bad mechanics) Manziel has looked very accurate. In that particular regard, I think the earlier comparison to Favre is legit too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 @thurmanthomas Landry Jones #FA LOL, Thurman, The Sooners vs Cowboys rivalry never dies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 that OU OC needs a beating calling all these run plays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 5, 2013 Author Share Posted January 5, 2013 BTW, in spite of his very unorthodox throwing style (what some would characterize as bad mechanics) Manziel has looked very accurate. In that particular regard, I think the earlier comparison to Favre is legit too. I agree with that. He's really accurate. It will be interesting to see him develop. Hopefully he will grow an inch or so and put on 10-15 pounds. He's what, 19? Maybe 20? Gotta love watching him now. Would be great for the NFL if he could play (although another thing I fear is that he is slender and would get killed. Russell Wilson is built and pretty big for his weight.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Trooth Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Jones...get yer chit together son...you're better than this. No, He aint. He is what he is. He's completing well over 60% of his passes and where are the points? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 True but there are a lot of college QBs who lack size that are great in college but cannot do it in the NFL because they don't have cannons for arms (Manziel has a good arm, not a cannon, and he wins up to throw it hard or deep, which will kill him and kills almost all other smaller guys in the pros), he doesn't have the knack for finding throwing lanes, he runs around and throws sidearm and off his back foot (which gets guys killed in the NFL), he doesn't have the great throwing motion or long arms and mechanics, which allows Wilson to get the ball out higher than his 5'11" guy but more like a 6'2" guy. I love Johnny Football, don't get me wrong, but Wilson was a freak. Manziel is a Flutie kind of guy, although more accurate (and Flutie would have a little harder time now that players seem to average an inch or two more in height across the board than when he played. I get a hard time for not loving him but yup. There are reasons he was low rated coming out of HS. Fun player but nfl transition has a lot of questions. I enjoy watching him though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 @thurmanthomas Landry Jones #FA LOL, Thurman, The Sooners vs Cowboys rivalry never dies. Thurnan is as dumb as a MOFO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Thurnan is as dumb as a MOFO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 his response to his tweet last week really show that Thurman is a clown and I hope he never has part ownership as we will be sunk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Russell Wilson is built and pretty big for his weight.) Yeah build-wise Wilson is pretty strong. Reminds me of a smaller version of McNair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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