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Manziel's quite artistic in the same way that a point guard is in basketball.

 

He creates angles and leverages that most quarterbacks don't see, because they don't create them.

 

 

 

How would you feel about Manziel if you heard a pro scout say (next year), "he's a slightly larger version of Russell Wilson?"

He's not. At all. There were more than a few things about Russell Wilson that belie his height, Johnny Football has none of those things. Manziel does other things really well though that help his game. But Wilson is different than other short guys because he has an absolute cannon for an arm, he throws perfectly over his head, he has a great knack for finding throwing lanes with a quick release while standing in the pocket, he has long arms and huge hands.

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He's not. At all. There were more than a few things about Russell Wilson that belie his height, Johnny Football has none of those things. Manziel does other things really well though that help his game. But Wilson is different than other short guys because he has an absolute cannon for an arm, he throws perfectly over his head, he has a great knack for finding throwing lanes with a quick release while standing in the pocket, he has long arms and huge hands.

 

Is that you Buddy? It's too late. :lol:

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He's not. At all. There were more than a few things about Russell Wilson that belie his height, Johnny Football has none of those things. Manziel does other things really well though that help his game. But Wilson is different than other short guys because he has an absolute cannon for an arm, he throws perfectly over his head, he has a great knack for finding throwing lanes with a quick release while standing in the pocket, he has long arms and huge hands.

 

They're both great athletes who can hurt you with their legs and use their legs to extend plays to break down the defense.

 

They're both accurate throwers.

 

They're both creative in their ad libs.

 

Neither has prototypical size.

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They're both great athletes who can hurt you with their legs and use their legs to extend plays to break down the defense.

 

They're both accurate throwers.

 

They're both creative in their ad libs.

 

Neither has prototypical size.

 

So anyways Kelly, I wasn't saying that they're the identical player.

 

Only that they have some remarkable similarities.

 

IMO.

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They're both great athletes who can hurt you with their legs and use their legs to extend plays to break down the defense.

 

They're both accurate throwers.

 

They're both creative in their ad libs.

 

Neither has prototypical size.

True but there are a lot of college QBs who lack size that are great in college but cannot do it in the NFL because they don't have cannons for arms (Manziel has a good arm, not a cannon, and he wins up to throw it hard or deep, which will kill him and kills almost all other smaller guys in the pros), he doesn't have the knack for finding throwing lanes, he runs around and throws sidearm and off his back foot (which gets guys killed in the NFL), he doesn't have the great throwing motion or long arms and mechanics, which allows Wilson to get the ball out higher than his 5'11" guy but more like a 6'2" guy.

 

I love Johnny Football, don't get me wrong, but Wilson was a freak. Manziel is a Flutie kind of guy, although more accurate (and Flutie would have a little harder time now that players seem to average an inch or two more in height across the board than when he played.

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BTW, in spite of his very unorthodox throwing style (what some would characterize as bad mechanics) Manziel has looked very accurate.

 

In that particular regard, I think the earlier comparison to Favre is legit too.

I agree with that. He's really accurate. It will be interesting to see him develop. Hopefully he will grow an inch or so and put on 10-15 pounds. He's what, 19? Maybe 20? Gotta love watching him now. Would be great for the NFL if he could play (although another thing I fear is that he is slender and would get killed. Russell Wilson is built and pretty big for his weight.)

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True but there are a lot of college QBs who lack size that are great in college but cannot do it in the NFL because they don't have cannons for arms (Manziel has a good arm, not a cannon, and he wins up to throw it hard or deep, which will kill him and kills almost all other smaller guys in the pros), he doesn't have the knack for finding throwing lanes, he runs around and throws sidearm and off his back foot (which gets guys killed in the NFL), he doesn't have the great throwing motion or long arms and mechanics, which allows Wilson to get the ball out higher than his 5'11" guy but more like a 6'2" guy.

 

I love Johnny Football, don't get me wrong, but Wilson was a freak. Manziel is a Flutie kind of guy, although more accurate (and Flutie would have a little harder time now that players seem to average an inch or two more in height across the board than when he played.

 

I get a hard time for not loving him but yup. There are reasons he was low rated coming out of HS.

 

Fun player but nfl transition has a lot of questions. I enjoy watching him though.

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