Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Its not the system... its the guns... Well....yes the guns, but don't forget the video games and music. I'm sure this guy was playing World of Warcraft and listening to The Spice Girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 This whole situation makes me wonder about how many of these crazy f***ers are floating around our neighborhoods....watching our children play on the playground. Really, this guy bludgened his grandmother to death with a hammer, and he only does 17 years in prison?!?! The system is broken. In 1980... Guns were harder to get?? Hammer = the new "gateway" weapon ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted December 27, 2012 Author Share Posted December 27, 2012 (edited) This whole situation makes me wonder about how many of these crazy f***ers are floating around our neighborhoods....watching our children play on the playground. Really, this guy bludgened his grandmother to death with a hammer, and he only does 17 years in prison?!?! The system is broken. He plea-bargained down to manslaughter (apparently to save taxpayers the expense of a trial). Sentenced to 8 1/3 to 25 years. At parole hearing in 1996 he stated he wouldn't be there if he didn't think it was mandatory cause it wasn't worth the time and effort... He was parolled 6 months later after 17 of those 25 years (apparently to save taxpayers the expense of his incarceration). The system is seriously !@#$ed. Edited December 27, 2012 by JÂy RÛßeÒ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Wow... You can say that again! He plea-bargained down to manslaughter (apparently to save taxpayers the expense of a trial). Sentenced to 8 1/3 to 25 years. At parole hearing in 1996 he stated he wouldn't be there if he didn't think it was mandatory cause it wasn't worth the time and effort... He was parolled 6 months later after 17 of those 25 years (apparently to save taxpayers the expense of his incarceration). The system is seriously !@#$ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 http://mcfw.com/?p=1283 Posted this on the other PPP thread, if no one saw it. You can hear the dispatch calls for the police and fire department Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 They charged a 24 yo girl with buying him all the weapons. Why the hell would you involve yourself in that mess? http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/28/16217742-woman-charged-in-connection-with-fatal-new-york-firefighter-shootings?lite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 They charged a 24 yo girl with buying him all the weapons. Why the hell would you involve yourself in that mess? http://usnews.nbcnew...-shootings?lite I'm thinking Mr. Crazy Pants offered her a s**t ton of money to go out and buy him the guns. I'm wondering if she was even aware of his intentions or his past? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Maybe all fire fighters need to be armed???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 (edited) I really do not understand our world. At a time that is meaningful to everyone there can be so much tragedy. This world has a lot of bad and all the rest of us can do is enjoy our time with family and make it matter. The holidays can be really hard on the most sane of us. I imagine that the "crazies" among us feel even more exiled at times when "the rest of us" are celebrating togetherness. 2 big things I've said a lot in these recent threads: 1) keep an extra eye on those you are close to that are struggling with life. Even if they aren't actually dangerous it's great to go the extra mile as it still can brighten someone's life. 2) keep them away from weapons (not just, but especially guns), and things like drugs/alcohol (even if unrelated to the mass shooting types) as much as realistically possible. Not always possible but.... Be aware and active about it. Edited December 30, 2012 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 I'm thinking Mr. Crazy Pants offered her a s**t ton of money to go out and buy him the guns. I'm wondering if she was even aware of his intentions or his past? Aware of his specific intentions? Maybe not. Aware that something was amiss? You'd have to assume so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted January 9, 2013 Author Share Posted January 9, 2013 They charged a 24 yo girl with buying him all the weapons. Why the hell would you involve yourself in that mess? http://usnews.nbcnew...-shootings?lite She was charged yesterday with filing false documents: http://news.yahoo.com/ny-woman-denies-charge-tied-firefighter-ambush-230719634.html. She's denied buying them for him but I have not seen an explanation of how he ended up with them if this is true. She was a neighbor of his at the time I suppose he could have used her to buy them and then stolen them. And to answer the 'would ya' question - you betcha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 And to answer the 'would ya' question - you betcha. I noticed she cleaned up really nice since her arrest photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted December 24, 2013 Author Share Posted December 24, 2013 1 year ago today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 1 year ago today... Hard to believe. It went by so fast. My prayers are with the families. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowgirlsFan Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Prayers for the families. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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