cliffordhicks Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 You do realize TJ Graham was a WR at NC State when Russell Wilson was there? And when it was our turn to pick, we took the wr who ran a good 40 over the qb that was great in college. Or I guess maybe TJ made the Qb. ahaha-- good call Buddy. How does he have a job still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Too soon to give up on him...WR and DT are the hardest positions to do well early in their careers...That said we need a true number 1 becasue Stevie is a great #2 maybe the best in the league, but they need a Calvin Johnson, a Andre Johnson, a guy who is open and can make a play when he is not open like Nix has been fond of saying. So, what happened then?!?!? I'd say he's looking a lot like James Hardy right about now. Strengths: Graham is explosive, can stretch the field and make big plays. He finds holes in zone coverage and makes himself a target. Against off coverage he is quick off the snap, gets to top speed and eludes defenders. He rarely drops passes or fumbles. His athletic ability and versatility make him a threat as a return man. http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/draft/2012/round/3/pick/6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 When the Bills drafted Graham I joked, you mean TY Hilton not TJ Graham. Graham was lower on my radar than Tommy Streeter. It was a weird pick at the time. You wonder if Buddy was just following the Al Davis model for drafting: pick the fastest guy and watch him run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I didn't like the pick at the time that it was made but wanted to give Nix/Gailey the benefit of the doubt. So far the pick looks pretty bad. To summarize all the points made in this thread: 1) The Bills could have picked TJ Graham's quarterback, Russell Wilson. 2) The Bills could have picked a better wide receiver in TY Hilton. 3) The Bills burned a 7th rounder to move up two spots to draft Graham. 4) When I watched video of Graham after he was drafted I was very underwhelmed by his game speed. Regardless of his stop watch time I (contrary to some others) didn't think he looked very fast. 5) As far as laughable, Nix in a GR interview last week mentioned Dalton and AJ Green who are ironically two guys the Bills could have drafted. In that same interview he mentioned that the team needed a fast, field-stretching receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 (edited) I think Russell Wilson would be a better WR than Graham. You do realize TJ Graham was a WR at NC State when Russell Wilson was there? And when it was our turn to pick, we took the wr who ran a good 40 over the qb that was great in college. Or I guess maybe TJ made the Qb. ahaha-- good call Buddy. How does he have a job still. Good point - we obviously scouted a lot of Wilson - and the Bills are simply too incompetant to see how good of a player he was. I said it to my brother and all my friends all damn season (last years college season that is) - if Russel Wilson was 6'3'' he was a top 5 LOCK - undisputed, probly 3rd overall pick, maybe even 2nd overall over RG3. Yet bc he is short he last until the third. How can an idiot like me see that from watching just a few games on cable TV and a million dollar man in Nix with all the fancy game tapes cant see it? WTF!!!! Im getting so !@#$ing pissed at this team im going crazy Edited December 17, 2012 by peterpan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronc24 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 THE BILLS COULD HAVE DRAFTED RUSSELL WILSON INSTEAD OF GRAHAM IN THE 3RD ROUND. YES, I AM YELLING. This x 1,000,000,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 4) When I watched video of Graham after he was drafted I was very underwhelmed by his game speed. Regardless of his stop watch time I (contrary to some others) didn't think he looked very fast. This was my reaction too. "You guys just traded to move up to pick up a guy who looked very pedestrian playing for NC State? Couldn't they at least find one draft-worthy highlight?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 This was my reaction too. "You guys just traded to move up to pick up a guy who looked very pedestrian playing for NC State? Couldn't they at least find one draft-worthy highlight?" And I've said this many times but some of these personnel guys need to lay off the stopwatch. Some of these players run much slower when they've got a helmet, shoulder pads, football pants and cleats on with a ball tucked under their arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Too soon to give up on him...WR and DT are the hardest positions to do well early in their careers...That said we need a true number 1 becasue Stevie is a great #2 maybe the best in the league, but they need a Calvin Johnson, a Andre Johnson, a guy who is open and can make a play when he is not open like Nix has been fond of saying. Easley was suppose to be that guy i thought but they will leave him on the bench & never find out what he can do at game speed which some play faster & bigger in games than others . Then b/c he can't get game time we will trade him with the excuse he just wasn't coming along after investing 4 years in the guy & he will go to another team & become one of the better WR in the league b/c our staff hasn't got fore site or the B**** to give the guy a shot ... And we wonder why we can't get into the play offs for 13 years !! Bring back Pollian PLEASE !!!!!!!! You do realize TJ Graham was a WR at NC State when Russell Wilson was there? And when it was our turn to pick, we took the wr who ran a good 40 over the qb that was great in college. Or I guess maybe TJ made the Qb. ahaha-- good call Buddy. How does he have a job still. Wilson was my pick this year , a QB in the later rounds with a spectacular college career & i thought the next Flutie or better. But as you pointed out we take the guy that could only do as good as the QB that fed him & had a mediocre career in college at best. I think our draft guys should be the next to go, this has been happening for years now & the draft team besides the few that have changed remains the same. This year though they will pull the trigger on Barkley or Jones & we will be screwed for the next 5 years b/c we'll blow a high pick on a apparent less than elite QB ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I wonder if he could play CB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcre Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 It's just another example of many that those in charge don't know what they're doing. Look back at the drafts, terrible picks everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Wilson was my pick this year , a QB in the later rounds with a spectacular college career & i thought the next Flutie or better. That's the LAST thing we need is another Flutie... ugh. We keep missing out on guys like Wilson though...!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 It's just another example of many that those in charge don't know what they're doing. Look back at the drafts, terrible picks everywhere. Yeh, even Cordy Glenn got wupped yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 What's comical to me is that Coach Gaily insists on running a pass happy offense with a mediocre QB and these spares at WR. Meanwhile we have quality RBs that are under utilized. This in spades. Let's review the Seattle game. 43 pass attempts and averaged 5.0 yards per. Only 21 run attempts and averaged 5.6 yards per. Yet Gailey is too stubborn to change his game plan. This has been the same sorry story all year. TJ Graham is garbage. Waste of a pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section242 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I'm not sure the Bills have a NFL caliber WR on the roster after Stevie Johnson and to some extent Nelson. Graham was awful yesterday as was the whole team. Trying to look at the positive side of things he's playing better than Ron Brooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 You guys are comical When TJ graham was drafted he was a "project that was rough around the edges" and now just because he has a bad game you guys are jumping all over him? - Our coaching sucks - Our QB sucks Lets pile on the rookie......who hardly even gets used.....and blame him because he has a bad game. riiiiight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 EVERYONE said "who is TJ Graham"? ESPN. NFL Network. Me. You. i watched NFL Networks coverage and they loved the pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Front Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 TJ is just a rookie. CJ was pretty bad his first season, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 You guys are comical When TJ graham was drafted he was a "project that was rough around the edges" and now just because he has a bad game you guys are jumping all over him? - Our coaching sucks - Our QB sucks Lets pile on the rookie......who hardly even gets used.....and blame him because he has a bad game. riiiiight You forget to add -Our Drafting sucks. Which leads us to the problem of trading up to draft TJ Graham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 (edited) This in spades. Let's review the Seattle game. 43 pass attempts and averaged 5.0 yards per. Only 21 run attempts and averaged 5.6 yards per. Yet Gailey is too stubborn to change his game plan. This has been the same sorry story all year. TJ Graham is garbage. Waste of a pick. if you go back and look at the drive summaries, after the bills drove to score their first TD where CJ had that really nice run for the TD, what does Gailey call the next time we get the ball?? 3 pass plays. 1 was dropped by Graham, and another was thrown to CJ's feet by Fitz. 3 !@#$ing pass plays, and we punt. Chan has to go. My dog can step on the PS3 controller and manage a better selection of offensive plays. Edited December 17, 2012 by bobobonators Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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