NoSaint Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 I don't know if you guys read the linked article. If not I should also add that the woman who came upon the scene said that the deceased was calling out for help and that the survivor was disregarding his calls. Just weird considering these guys were bosom buddies from college and maintained their close friendship as NFL players. I think the extreme-ness of what he was ignoring is what leads me most to say he was a bit paralyzed by the circumstance. Him dying made his own situation far worse. Morally/ethically and legally he took such an unreasonable approach that I hope it wasn't just "screw that dying guy" and was just his body/brain shutting down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 My only theory that would somewhat explain it is that he was so guilt-ridden and ashamed at what happened that he couldn't face his best buddy. He lacked the moral courage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Onion Sports Network @OnionSports Jason Garrett Says Cowboys Must Avoid Silly Mistakes Like Killing Teammates In Drunk Driving Accidents | More Sports:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Onion Sports Network @OnionSports Jason Garrett Says Cowboys Must Avoid Silly Mistakes Like Killing Teammates In Drunk Driving Accidents | More Sports:... I love the Onion usually, but this one is a bit much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 (edited) .18 is the magic number brent hit. That's certainly not "had 2-3 and thought i was still legal. Edited December 13, 2012 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 .18 is the magic number brent hit. That's certainly not "had 2-3 and thought i was still legal. Two points. That's a pretty high BAL although different people function differently at the same blood alcohol level. Also some people act differently than others when intoxicated. As a person who admittedly had lots of practice driving while intoxicated in my younger days, I would always give myself a lecture before firing the ignition. I would drive more slowly, try to be more alert, and generally be careful. I'd remind myself to not be in a hurry and to not race idiots. Conversely, some people drive more aggressively when they're intoxicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Two points. That's a pretty high BAL although different people function differently at the same blood alcohol level. Also some people act differently than others when intoxicated. As a person who admittedly had lots of practice driving while intoxicated in my younger days, I would always give myself a lecture before firing the ignition. I would drive more slowly, try to be more alert, and generally be careful. I'd remind myself to not be in a hurry and to not race idiots. Conversely, some people drive more aggressively when they're intoxicated. His "high rate of speed" isn't a good thing. Dudes getting serious jail time. He's batting 1.000 on things that'll kill him in front of a jury. And that's a common justification for "it wasn't as dumb or reckless for me" but it's still pretty lame in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 His "high rate of speed" isn't a good thing. Dudes getting serious jail time. He's batting 1.000 on things that'll kill him in front of a jury. And that's a common justification for "it wasn't as dumb or reckless for me" but it's still pretty lame in the end. I have no idea how fast he was traveling although I seem to remember reading that the car flipped at least once. So it looks like he got fairly buzzed and started driving recklessly, which is idiot behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Two points. That's a pretty high BAL although different people function differently at the same blood alcohol level. Also some people act differently than others when intoxicated. As a person who admittedly had lots of practice driving while intoxicated in my younger days, I would always give myself a lecture before firing the ignition. I would drive more slowly, try to be more alert, and generally be careful. I'd remind myself to not be in a hurry and to not race idiots. Conversely, some people drive more aggressively when they're intoxicated. My only theory that would somewhat explain it is that he was so guilt-ridden and ashamed at what happened that he couldn't face his best buddy. He lacked the moral courage. From some of the reports I've heard, Brent was traveling at speeds in excess of 100 mph when he flipped and rolled his car a dozen times. I think, well hope, that Brent was essentially shell shocked given the trauma of the accident and his intoxication, and could not fully comprehend the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I have no idea how fast he was traveling although I seem to remember reading that the car flipped at least once. So it looks like he got fairly buzzed and started driving recklessly, which is idiot behavior. Lets not even give that much credit. The guy was straight drunk, not fairly buzzed. No euphemisms on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwoz Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Heatley was not drunk. He passed his field sobriety tests. In his case, it was a young man driving recklessly in his new toy (brand new Ferrari) that caused the accident. If Heatley was sober, that's even worse. According to wikipedia, Heatley got three-years' PROBATION, He also was ordered to give 150 speeches on the dangers of speeding, and pay $25,000 to Fulton County for the cost of investigating the crash. I'm dumbfounded -- that's what a human life is worth in Georgia? An athlete kills someone because he's a stupid !@#$ and he gets a slap on the wrist. You or I would get stuck in the butt-!@#$ing ward of the county jail. This fat jerkoff on the Cowboys will probably receive taxpayer-funded psychological treatment to take care of his trauma. I want to see athletes get treated like the rest of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 It's worse that he was sober? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 It's worse that he was sober? It's not worse, but it's pretty dumb to be driving that fast. You hit something at that speed, you aren't coming back. While he wasn't drunk, he still was putting lives in danger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 No doubt about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb2590 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 They said .18 BAC for a man his size would need to take down 20 shots in a period of 4 hrs to reach that point. Just ridiculous. Zero respect for this guy. Rot in jail !@#$er Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Who else thinks its really weird that he's on the sideline having fun today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Check out this idiot: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/16/sports/baseball/ex-pitcher-matt-bush-faces-prison.html?_r=0 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Bush_(baseball) According to witnesses, a drunken Bush beat up a high school lacrosse player with a golf club while screaming, "I'm Matt ###ing Bush!" Sound familiar. And finally, the little brat crying: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Surprised this didn't get more attention. I guess being the late game it was missed by many here though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 They put him on non football injury IR. WTF? He's going to jail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 They put him on non football injury IR. WTF? He's going to jail. not to get into a fresh CBA debate with you - is it something to do with letting cases play out if there isnt a distinct pattern(ala Big Ben)? i know stallworth was offseason so they got to let him plead guilty before punishment. situations can be a bit sticky i think with in season arrests and punishment, and the non injury IR mightve just been the easiest designation negotiated between him, the nflpa, the team, the league etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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