djp14150 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I hate NE more than any other team, but NYJ losing effectively takes them out of the playoff picture, and almost guarantees I'll win a preseason bet that they won't have a winning record. Id rather have the Jets win. Buffalo needs NE to lose 4 times to get the division title. The stay have San Fran and Houston in foxborough. these two weeks they are at Jets then at the dolphins. then they close at Jacksonville and then host Miami. I doubt it but id like to see them lose 4 straight. Bills play the Jets to close the season so Bills win out they will finish at least in second place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Id rather have the Jets win. Buffalo needs NE to lose 4 times to get the division title. The stay have San Fran and Houston in foxborough. these two weeks they are at Jets then at the dolphins. then they close at Jacksonville and then host Miami. I doubt it but id like to see them lose 4 straight. Bills play the Jets to close the season so Bills win out they will finish at least in second place. Thats what I said man. The Pats have the 49ers and the Texans. Those could be losses. IF they were to lose against the Jets that's another. And of course Miami always plays them tough just like any other divisional game. On the other side, if the Jets win or lose, I don't see them beating our record by the end of the year. So it's really no matter if they win a tie breaker, we will have more wins than them so it won't matter. I Know its a long shot, but were taking about scenarios right? At the end of the day, is rather keep as many teams in the division in the hunt until as late as possible, gives other teams incentive to try harder, especially when playing the Pats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) Carolina draft as GM 1995, 1996, 1997 round 1-2 and 3 Kerry Collins number 5 overall in possible the worst draft class for quarterbacks ever, Collins far and away the best QB Tyrone Poole Blake Brockermeyer 1996 Tim Biakabutuka Musin Muhammed - best pick of the ten listed here Winslow Oliver JC Price 1997 Rae Curruth Mike Minter Kinnon Taylor Colts years 1998 - 2011 Payton Manning Jerome Pathon EG Green 1999 Edgerrin James Mike Peterson Bradon Burlsworth 2000 Rob Morris Marcus Washington David Macklion 2001 Reggie Wayne Idrees Brashear Cory Bird 2002 Dwight Freeney Larry Triplett Joseph Jefferson 2003 Dallas Clark Mike Doss Donald Strickland 2004 Bob Sanders Ben Hartsock Gilbert Gardner 2005 Marlin Jackson Kelvin Haden Vincent Burns 2006 Joseph Addai Tim Jennings Freddie Keiaho 2007 Anthony Gonzales Tony Ugoh Dante Hughes 2008 Mike Pollack Phillip Wheeler Jacob Tamme 2009 Donald Brown Fili Moala Jerraud Powers 2010 Jerry Hughes Pat Angerer Kevin Thomas 2011 Anthony Castanzo Ben Ilajana Drake Nevis Carolina was different as a expansion team they were able to load their roster fairly quickly as did Jacksonville both having some success. Collins was by far the best QB available the draft selection besides him were not very good. The Colt years they seem to add one good player at the top of their draft but Manning's skill level allowed guys like Joseph Addai and Anthony Gonzales back to back first round misses, to continue winning with them. All time great QB's can cover poor drafting both on offense and even on defense. How does this compare to other GM's I don't know but to pretend he's good at drafting is just that - pretending. Edited November 22, 2012 by CardinalScotts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 No fantasy stuff just in your heart who would you like to see win? I despise the jets more then any team but they are such sad sacks I would like to see them take NE down. we need the Jets (Steelers & Colts too) to keep losing so we have a better shot at the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Carolina draft as GM 1995, 1996, 1997 round 1-2 and 3 Kerry Collins number 5 overall in possible the worst draft class for quarterbacks ever, Collins far and away the best QB Tyrone Poole Blake Brockermeyer 1996 Tim Biakabutuka Musin Muhammed - best pick of the ten listed here Winslow Oliver JC Price 1997 Rae Curruth Mike Minter Kinnon Taylor Colts years 1998 - 2011 Payton Manning Jerome Pathon EG Green 1999 Edgerrin James Mike Peterson Bradon Burlsworth 2000 Rob Morris Marcus Washington David Macklion 2001 Reggie Wayne Idrees Brashear Cory Bird 2002 Dwight Freeney Larry Triplett Joseph Jefferson 2003 Dallas Clark Mike Doss Donald Strickland 2004 Bob Sanders Ben Hartsock Gilbert Gardner 2005 Marlin Jackson Kelvin Haden Vincent Burns 2006 Joseph Addai Tim Jennings Freddie Keiaho 2007 Anthony Gonzales Tony Ugoh Dante Hughes 2008 Mike Pollack Phillip Wheeler Jacob Tamme 2009 Donald Brown Fili Moala Jerraud Powers 2010 Jerry Hughes Pat Angerer Kevin Thomas 2011 Anthony Castanzo Ben Ilajana Drake Nevis Carolina was different as a expansion team they were able to load their roster fairly quickly as did Jacksonville both having some success. Collins was by far the best QB available the draft selection besides him were not very good. The Colt years they seem to add one good player at the top of their draft but Manning's skill level allowed guys like Joseph Addai and Anthony Gonzales back to back first round misses, to continue winning with them. All time great QB's can cover poor drafting both on offense and even on defense. How does this compare to other GM's I don't know but to pretend he's good at drafting is just that - pretending. Is this post in the right thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Beeeews Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Doesn't matter if we don't take care of business in Indianapolis... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 The more the Jets lose, the more of a chance we have to get into the playoffs. Go Pats*! Yeah, I said it. Can't bring myself to root for Brady. But yeah, go freakin Pats. Oh yeah, and go Stephen Gostkowski, my fantasy kicker. My dream: NE 30 (10 FGs) Jets 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) Thats what I said man. The Pats have the 49ers and the Texans. Those could be losses. IF they were to lose against the Jets that's another. And of course Miami always plays them tough just like any other divisional game. On the other side, if the Jets win or lose, I don't see them beating our record by the end of the year. So it's really no matter if they win a tie breaker, we will have more wins than them so it won't matter. I Know its a long shot, but were taking about scenarios right? At the end of the day, is rather keep as many teams in the division in the hunt until as late as possible, gives other teams incentive to try harder, especially when playing the Pats. That's kind of what I am looking at. The Pats and Jets still have some tough games ahead of them. They could lose some and we could win some. We still have two division games against the Jets and Miami to help us in the division/conference standings. It would be great to see Miami become a spoiler for NE and the NYJs. We also have a great conference match up this week against the Colts. There are a lot of scenarios but none would make me more happy than seeing us win the division by winning out the rest of the games. It's a long shot, but man would that be sweet. I know a lot of people don't think there is a snowballs chance in hell, but I am looking at how the defense has stepped it up the last couple weeks. Now if the offense can just get rolling, this could be fun. Edited November 22, 2012 by Rockinon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 The more the Jets lose, the more of a chance we have to get into the playoffs. Go Pats*! Yeah, I said it. Can't bring myself to root for Brady. But yeah, go freakin Pats. Oh yeah, and go Stephen Gostkowski, my fantasy kicker. My dream: NE 30 (10 FGs) Jets 2. The thing is we can hope for both of them to lose. Do we really think the Jets are all the sudden going to come out of the basement and tear it up? It's possible, sure. But not likely. But if the Jets beat the Pats, it gives the Pats one more loss and we all know the Jets won't keep winning. Then the Pats have to play the 49ers and Texans which are far from gimmies. There's a chance we still get the division. No likely. Sure. But possible. We would need the Jets, Dolphins x2, 49ers, Texans, and Jags to give them a few losses. The Jets probably give us that best option. Also, if the Jets and Dolphins keep winning, we just need to win 1 more than them and were good. We could use the division tearing itself apart to help us get in. That's kind of what I am looking at. The Pats and Jets still have some tough games ahead of them. They could lose some and we could win some. We still have two division games against the Jets and Miami to help us in the division/conference standings. It would be great to see Miami become a spoiler for NE and NYJs. We also have a great conference matchup this week against the Colts. There are a lot of scenarios but none would make me more happy then seeing us win the division by winning out the rest of the games. It's a long shot, but man would that be sweet. Again, This---^ If we hope to get in with the Wildcard we might be short. The way I see it, we're allowed to take one more loss and that's it. Done. But if we keep winning there's just as much a chance at the division. Like you and I already said, the Pats play a tough schedule, the Phins do cuz they play the Pats 2 times and the Jets are.... Well, the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve O Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Pretty simple really 1) Bills need to win out to make the playoffs, either by winning the East or wild card 2) Our fate against the Jets is in our own hands. If we win out we end up with a better record than the Jets via winning the last game of the season. Doesn't matter what they do before that game 3) to win the division we need (lots of) help - NE to has to lose 4 games. Not likely but possible. So, since we don't really care what the Jets do, and NE has to start losing, GO JETS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Imo, we need NE to win. They are going to make the playoffs. Period. For the Bills to have a glimmer of hope, they need the Jets and other marginal teams to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roc Bronson Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) I threw up with this decision, but I have to say Pats. The arrogance of the Jets is enough to make them my most hated team.. Edited November 22, 2012 by Roc Bronson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Imo, we need NE to win. They are going to make the playoffs. Period. For the Bills to have a glimmer of hope, they need the Jets and other marginal teams to lose. You are probably right, but it's no gimme for NE. The have some flaws that will be exposed against SF and Houston. They have also all ready lost some games this year no one thought possible. It is not far fetched that they could lose 3-4 more games. As for the Bills, the best chance for them is to win regardless of what any other team is doing. The Bills win the next couple games, things will certainly start looking up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanCity Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Pats win, but lose Hernandez and Welker for the year. Never want to wish ill towards another human being, but Patriots hardly classify as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Pats win, but lose Hernandez and Welker for the year. Never want to wish ill towards another human being, but Patriots hardly classify as such. Nope - we want them hanging losses on Miami, and honestly Houston in hopes it'll keep their starters playing for home field against Indy. Pats winning out keeps Houston playing, and hangs losses on multiple wildcard teams potentially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 With all these scenarios, which is WAYYYYY!!! To early IMO, it is best to hope for losses for anyone ahead of us. That would be the Pats at the moment. The Jets are tied and if they win it will benefit the entire division. It keeps both the Jets and the Phins fighting for spots. As said before, as long as we keep winning we should be fine. Lets hope we do. Until there's more of a shot than the scenarios of 2-5 teams winning or losing on a weekly basis, Winning is the only thing we should be worried about. With that said. I hope an empty space station fall onto the field tonight and crushes both the Jets and the Pats. And thier fat coaches. It's thanksgiving and I know it's mean and heartless, but I really do hate them that much. Besides, God wouldn't let that happen with Tebow in the field anyway so there's nothing to worry about. Maybe a 0-0 tie is the best to hope for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsWatch Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Actually I'd like to see a tie with defenses demolishing offenses on both sides and no score in overtime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeBill Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Winning the division is out of the question at this point. I want all seven teams in the 4-6 to 6-4 range to lose as many games as possible. That includes those Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Winning the division is out of the question at this point. I want all seven teams in the 4-6 to 6-4 range to lose as many games as possible. That includes those Jets. Bingo - as many games back as we are, with the pats having the tie breaker - I want division winners winning everything here out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albany c2 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I won't root for either team, I'll just watch and hope Brandon Spikes tears an ACL. No place for guys like that in this league. Disgusting human being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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