cantankerous Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I'd rather have Martin over Roosevelt. Naaman is slow, and can't play special teams. I'm sure it was an easy choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I get why but so disappointed Naaman Roosevelt didn't get the call. Gailey values special teamers. It's the only reason to keep bringing back Martin. He certainly can't catch a ball. PTR If its special teams related why not easley after the 100 yard return ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 If its special teams related why not easley after the 100 yard return ? Because they have four other guys that are better than Easley at returning kicks for starters. They needed a gunner because of the injuries to Brooks and Smith. They don't need a kick returner. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowery4 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Booo. This one area that Chan and I don't agree. I have been okay with a lot but Buddy's buddy, Martian is not one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Because they have four other guys that are better than Easley at returning kicks for starters. They needed a gunner because of the injuries to Brooks and Smith. They don't need a kick returner. GO BILLS!!! This. Though I do believe we see Easley on the 53 man roster sometime this year when there is an injury of some sorts. With our luck, we know we won't go all season with no major WR injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Would have liked to see Hagan come back. I suppose there is a reason the guy can't stick on a roster,,,but of all the guys they cut, I liked him most, and thought he could contribute...I get the special teams angle...but how about the WR's who can catch the ball angle? Actually as I mentioned in one of the numerous pre-draft wide receiver/roster threads, my friend who's a dyed-in-wool NY Giants fan says that Derek Hagan was on the Giants roster for 3 years solely because of his excellence as a special teams gunner. I don't recall if the Bills used him in that role but he apparently excelled at it at one time. I'd rather have Martin over Roosevelt. Naaman is slow, and can't play special teams. I'm sure it was an easy choice. I'm gonna nail you on a technicality… Roosevelt can play special teams… he's a decent punt returner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 neither one is an NFL caliber wide out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I get why but so disappointed Naaman Roosevelt didn't get the call. Gailey values special teamers. It's the only reason to keep bringing back Martin. He certainly can't catch a ball. PTR Why not rip Roosevelt for not improving his ST play instead of ripping Martin as a WR? Neither one of them should see the field as a WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Why not rip Roosevelt for not improving his ST play instead of ripping Martin as a WR? Neither one of them should see the field as a WR. Actually FWIW, Naaman bulked up this past offseason, going from 189 to 199. While your second sentence might be true, it's not lack of work ethic which has kept Naaman Roosevelt from becoming a bona fide NFL player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnzane Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Ugh, I get it, but Ruvell Martin can't catch a cold. He could be in the drop site of an anthrax bomb and he wouldn't catch it. So, in reality the Bills still have 4 WR's and stonehanded gunner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 If its special teams related why not easley after the 100 yard return ? Martin is a gunner. He tackles people. The Bills have plenty of kick returners. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rstencel Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I personally was hoping they would have picked up one of the veteran WR's or players they liked scouting other teams that didn't make them. There where several WR's that have pretty good history, that may be on downside that was hoping they would sign to come in and help develop some of our younger receivers. Yes they signed more for special team than anything else, and a mistake on special teams can change a game real quick, still would have been nice to see them sign another teams player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I get why but so disappointed Naaman Roosevelt didn't get the call. Gailey values special teamers. It's the only reason to keep bringing back Martin. He certainly can't catch a ball. PTR It really doesn't matter. The difference is not that huge. Naman has played for the Bills the past two seasons and has 256 yards 1 TD. Also, no one is yet to pick him. If he was really that valuable, then he would have been picked as the #4 or #5 WR by others. I would have preferred to have Deon Branch who could have provided the Veteran leadership this group so sorely lacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I would have preferred to have Deon Branch who could have provided the Veteran leadership this group so sorely lacks. Finally someone agrees with me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineMoxie Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 According to ProFootballFocus Premium Stats: QB Rating Fitz had in 2011 throwing to each receiver Stevie Johnson--------------77.3 Namaan Roosevelt---------75.3 David Nelson----------------72.0 BRad Smith------------------61.0 Donald Jones---------------55.0 Derek Hagan----------------54.7 Ruvell Martin ----------------36.0 However, PFF also says that the two top Special Teams players on the Bills are Corey McIntyre and Ruvell Martin. #3 is Chris White. This is why I wish there was some GM out there who actually tried the Billy Bean thing in the NFL - using players based primarily on their stats, not their "intangibles." I mean, after the career Flutie had, there are still people who wouldn't give him a second look due to his size. How about just looking at the stats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 (edited) This is why I wish there was some GM out there who actually tried the Billy Bean thing in the NFL - using players based primarily on their stats, not their "intangibles." I mean, after the career Flutie had, there are still people who wouldn't give him a second look due to his size. How about just looking at the stats? Because baseball plays a 162 game season while the NFL plays 16. Stats mean less with a small sample. Also, while baseball is considered a team game, it's really a collection of individual performances. (hitting, fielding, pitching) Football is the ultimate team sport. How well you play depends a lot on your 10 teammates. PTR Edited September 5, 2012 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladiebla Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 so uninspiring Article may have expired or has been deleted. Wierd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBD Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I would have preferred to have Deon Branch who could have provided the Veteran leadership this group so sorely lacks. I think I like Stevie taking over that role, especially with him signed long term, and wouldn't want to bring in someone who might threaten that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Actually as I mentioned in one of the numerous pre-draft wide receiver/roster threads, my friend who's a dyed-in-wool NY Giants fan says that Derek Hagan was on the Giants roster for 3 years solely because of his excellence as a special teams gunner. I don't recall if the Bills used him in that role but he apparently excelled at it at one time. All I know about Hagan, he was a tough dude...I thought he played really well in traffic, and just had a physical style that most of the other guys don't have...and he was catching a lot of Fitzys ugly passes at the end of the year...I will assume the coching staff has valid reasons, but to me, as a WR, he was a good notch above the others in that group of "fringe" guys. Not sure about his ST play, but I assume he stuck on the Giants as long as he did, for a reason. I just like him in our offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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