DC Tom Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 So the solution is to wage war on the mothers? Of course. If you prohibit birth control and abortions, you'll create more fathers. Or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Of course. If you prohibit birth control and abortions, you'll create more fathers. Or something. Ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted August 30, 2012 Author Share Posted August 30, 2012 Ha! But you can't deny the problem, or deny the fact that nobody addresses it head on. When was the last time you saw a PSA that warned against the ill effects of single motherhood? How bout a proclamation from an elected official that tells the ladies to be more responsible? Something, anything that comes right out and says: stop having unprotected sex if you don't have the means/desire to raise a kid in a stable, two-parent home? This is a real problem our society faces but it's such a hands-off issue because nobody wants to address the problem by actually identifying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 But you can't deny the problem, or deny the fact that nobody addresses it head on. When was the last time you saw a PSA that warned against the ill effects of single motherhood? How bout a proclamation from an elected official that tells the ladies to be more responsible? Something, anything that comes right out and says: stop having unprotected sex if you don't have the means/desire to raise a kid in a stable, two-parent home? This is a real problem our society faces but it's such a hands-off issue because nobody wants to address the problem by actually identifying it. It's a symptom of several problems that dovetail into one. Solve the other problems, you'll find this one far less taxing. Pun intended. Whatever the answer, I assure you the solution is not waging war on single mothers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted August 30, 2012 Author Share Posted August 30, 2012 It's a symptom of several problems that dovetail into one. Solve the other problems, you'll find this one far less taxing. Pun intended. Whatever the answer, I assure you the solution is not waging war on single mothers. No, but at the very least there could be an awareness campaign that dissuades the state of single-motherhood before it even becomes a problem. Once the deed is done--you're right--they shouldn't be vilified for their plight. That doesn't mean it can't be preempted though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 No, but at the very least there could be an awareness campaign that dissuades the state of single-motherhood before it even becomes a problem. Once the deed is done--you're right--they shouldn't be vilified for their plight. That doesn't mean it can't be preempted though. Because a hyperbolic fear campaign is always the solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 No, but at the very least there could be an awareness campaign that dissuades the state of single-motherhood before it even becomes a problem. Once the deed is done--you're right--they shouldn't be vilified for their plight. That doesn't mean it can't be preempted though. \Step one is to remove the welfare incentive program that rewards welfare mothers with more money for having more children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted August 30, 2012 Author Share Posted August 30, 2012 Because a hyperbolic fear campaign is always the solution. C'mon. That's like saying we should never prepare for a hurricane because of the Katrina fallout. Unfair comparison, and you know it. Not to mention, the "war on drugs" was a moving target, it attacked a crime pestilence by going after a symptom, not the cause. We're talking about the exact opposite. \ Step one is to remove the welfare incentive program that rewards welfare mothers with more money for having more children. Totally agree that it's a step, but I hesitate to agree it's step ONE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 C'mon. That's like saying we should never prepare for a hurricane because of the Katrina fallout. Unfair comparison, and you know it. Not to mention, the "war on drugs" was a moving target, it attacked a crime pestilence by going after a symptom, not the cause. We're talking about the exact opposite. Totally agree that it's a step, but I hesitate to agree it's step ONE. 100% disagree. Single motherhood is a symptom of several other problems -- not a problem in and of itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldTraveller Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 And the GOP wonders why they can't close the gender gap. Holy s*hitballs. This is a page out of Darth Vader's handbook. If the GOP has a gender gap problem, then I guess the Dem's do to, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 If the GOP has a gender gap problem, then I guess the Dem's do to, right? I have no idea. I'm not a democrat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldTraveller Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I have no idea. I'm not a democrat. I didn't say you were, you said the GOP had a gender gap issue, so I'm asking you if the Dem's do to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I didn't say you were, you said the GOP had a gender gap issue, so I'm asking you if the Dem's do to? No one in the Democratic party that I know of (which doesn't count for much admittedly) is advocating taking kids away from single mothers because they're single mothers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldTraveller Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 No one in the Democratic party that I know of (which doesn't count for much admittedly) is advocating taking kids away from single mothers because they're single mothers. That's not what I asked, you said that the GOP has a gender problem, and considering the polls are dead even, and that there are only two genders, if the GOP has a gender problem, then I guess that means..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 No one in the Democratic party that I know of (which doesn't count for much admittedly) is advocating taking kids away from single mothers because they're single mothers. Am I missing something here? Who's advocating taking kids away from single mothers? I think WT is asking if the dems have a gender gap with men? For Team Pathetic here, what I'm really asking is if the dems have a gender gap with real men? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 \ Step one is to remove the welfare incentive program that rewards welfare mothers with more money for having more children. I'd actually take the opposite tack and have step one to provide incentives for being married. (And if the federal government is gearing tax policy to support marriage, I am fine with providing civil unions with the same tax incentives.) BC's PSA's extolling the problems that single mothers face and why single girls/women should try to avoid that sounds ok as an additional step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Am I missing something here? Who's advocating taking kids away from single mothers? I think WT is asking if the dems have a gender gap with men? For Team Pathetic here, what I'm really asking is if the dems have a gender gap with real men? I should re-clarify: it started with OC's post, specifically this section-- Of all the problems in the country...why isn't single motherhood the #1 target of the GOP? Every single program the GOP hates has single motherhood as a root cause...somewhere in it. Even if they were cynical about it, married women vote for the GOP 2/1. I realize OC doesn't speak for the entire GOP. But I found his to be personally horrific and also factually incorrect. That's not what I asked, you said that the GOP has a gender problem, and considering the polls are dead even, and that there are only two genders, if the GOP has a gender problem, then I guess that means..... I didn't know the polls were dead even. In that case I was wrong. Can you link me? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldTraveller Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Totally agree that it's a step, but I hesitate to agree it's step ONE. Actually, it IS step one because it's far easier to implement than advocating for 2-parent families, and mostly because there's no financial reward for having a kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 http://www.realclear...obama-1171.html Thanks for this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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