Maury Ballstein Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2012/08/25/leodis-excelling-as-nickel-cb/ IMO Leodis at nickel will be much improved, his time as TBD whipping boy will end by week 3. He has all world athleticism which should shine on the shorter routes while covering the slot WR's The McKelvin flamers will flame this post in no time........Meanwhile other subpar performers such as Fitz, Kelsay and "who ate my lunch" Drayton Florence etc will continue to be hero's President of the McKelvin fan club signing off...........Let's go Defense........Keeeeeeeeeel the jets.......I mean keeeeeeeeel them.....can't wait to see Steven A and Skip break that game down if it turns out the way I envision............as long as Fitz don't INT machine it up....we should be good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Nickel is probably an ideal spot for him. McKelvin's coverage skills have always been decent, what kills him is when the ball is in the air. Those ball skills are more crucial to the outside IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 I can assure you Drayton florence wont be a hero this year as he was released months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted August 25, 2012 Author Share Posted August 25, 2012 I can assure you Drayton florence wont be a hero this year as he was released months ago. very true.....but he was terrible last year and got a free pass for some reason....got beat deep easily all day .....guess 1 int vs brady will do that around here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Seems logical to me. Hopefully he steps up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 (edited) If we can get Leodis as a Niickel and retain Scott as a Monster we will be able to have subsets that will be effective. If we run with Scott against the Patriots, for example, as a base defensive we will likely be as effective against the run as keeping our base LB's in the game. We have seen for ourselves that we are having trouble with linebacker and it could be a liability keeping our better athletes off the field, so this is a role that Scott fits. As for Leodis fitting our Nickel - it would be wonderful to transition to our nickel on passing downs against the Patriots. McKelvin is athletic enough to cover most guys he will line up against at his position. However, what we will see this year is a "phenom" young Patriots running back. He will be the benefactor of the Pats passing offense and be as much hype as he will be reality. When you have to protect against the most dangerous passing offensive in the NFL you give up protection on the run. This leads us to our most important issue this year. We face far better RB's then we do QB's. It may be more impotant for us to keep proven, realiable, and consistent DL's this year. Instead of keeping Williams, Anderson, Williams, Kelsay, Dareus on the field 90% of the snaps a game we need to limit them maybe 75%. Especially Kelsay. There are many here who dislike him, but he is an anchor to our defense. In more descriptive terms he is not a cannon, dynamite, tank, or brick wall. He is an anchor - you put him down and you are pretty sure he will hold it down. Playing run defense on the line is like subjecting yourself to a steam roller. As many who know football understand it is when OL must pass defend that they get mauled but run blocking wears down defense. We cannot let our DL get worn out this season and expose our LB's. Edited August 25, 2012 by jboyst62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowery4 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Both Pats* rbs had 29 yard carries last night. So I kind of agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Yes he likely will be a good nickel back. The reason for being the whipping boy is due to his high draft selection combined with play below that level. In the long run these things tend to balance out, guys selected in later rounds make All Pro and there are many 1st round busts. However that doesn't stop people from ripping the under-performers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigc14120 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 I think there is a chance that McKelvin may end back up on the outside....I am not yet believer in Williams...I see him as a younger Draton Florence, can't run to cover, but can hit and anticipate/make big plays. Willaims will get torched by speed guys this year, because of his lack of speed. McKelvin got torched last year because of not making the play on the ball, not that they outran him. (recalling Dez Bryant going over his head for a TD) I too am a McKelvin supporter....but it is likely they will not resign him for the money he will get in free agency. They have already made outher plans, as we can see by the roster. (same moves they made the year before Winfield and Clements hit the free agent market) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 I have high hopes for him as nickel back. When he was in the game for all downs, i think that perhaps he was overwhelmed by all the schemes and responsibilities. By limiting him to specific applications, I think he will have a chance to just play without thinking too much. Didn't I read somewhere that Wanny was in favor of letting the players use their own judgement a little more rather than scripting how they are supposed to react? I think I like that philosophy, but time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 (edited) “Leodis has played really, really well at nickel,” said head coach Chan Gailey. “It would be hard to move him out of there.” That's as close to effusive praise as you're ever going to hear from Gailey. I'd say Leodis has found a home. Edited August 25, 2012 by Mike in Syracuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Note to self: Wes Welker fly patterns all day long. --Bill Belichick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted August 25, 2012 Author Share Posted August 25, 2012 I think there is a chance that McKelvin may end back up on the outside....I am not yet believer in Williams...I see him as a younger Draton Florence, can't run to cover, but can hit and anticipate/make big plays. Willaims will get torched by speed guys this year, because of his lack of speed. McKelvin got torched last year because of not making the play on the ball, not that they outran him. (recalling Dez Bryant going over his head for a TD) I too am a McKelvin supporter....but it is likely they will not resign him for the money he will get in free agency. They have already made outher plans, as we can see by the roster. (same moves they made the year before Winfield and Clements hit the free agent market) Agree to a degree on A Williams.........seems like he could take over as a safety once Wilson ages a little more........would prefer to see Brooks on the outside and McK stay at nickle. Brooks coverage so far looks solid Note to self: Wes Welker fly patterns all day long. --Bill Belichick Put on your Pats jersey and keep looking up to them........McK with a pass rush will shut that midget down.....Brady's gonna feel all sort of pressure this year......Buff 11-5 Pats 10-6 lock it down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 I can assure you Drayton florence wont be a hero this year as he was released months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted August 25, 2012 Author Share Posted August 25, 2012 hilarious indeed.....I thought Florence was going all cromartie and playing 2 ways for us.....i don't know anything about this roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Note to self: Wes Welker fly patterns all day long. --Bill Belichick Note to self: Patterns that take 4 seconds to develop = good, since our D line will be on Brady in 3. .--Dave Wannstead Also...Welker isn't as fast as he is quick. So fly patterns, against a speedster like McK...aren't going to be open very often. This is the same reason why them adding WR Lloyd doesn't scare me as much as he would have last year. Last year we had no pass rush, and had to rely on coverage. Hence, when we had incredible coverage = 3 of the 4 Brady INTs were coverage, not pressure....we won the game. The D line, if it performs as expected, turns Brady back towards running the pop-gun offense he usually runs...and that's where having a kickass nickel CB(McK), and a kickass LB/S hybrid, or Monster(Scott) comes in very handy. George Wilson is also key in that...and so is Gilmore on Lloyd. Not saying that we have nothing to worry about. Rather, we have done something positive regarding what we have to worry about. Consider: when we beat the pats...McK, Scott and Wilson....all had picks and all got them by forcing Brady to overreach...and then making him pay for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Note to self: Patterns that take 4 seconds to develop = good, since our D line will be on Brady in 3. .--Dave Wannstead Also...Welker isn't as fast as he is quick. So fly patterns, against a speedster like McK...aren't going to be open very often. This is the same reason why them adding WR Lloyd doesn't scare me as much as he would have last year. Last year we had no pass rush, and had to rely on coverage. Hence, when we had incredible coverage = 3 of the 4 Brady INTs were coverage, not pressure....we won the game. The D line, if it performs as expected, turns Brady back towards running the pop-gun offense he usually runs...and that's where having a kickass nickel CB(McK), and a kickass LB/S hybrid, or Monster(Scott) comes in very handy. George Wilson is also key in that...and so is Gilmore on Lloyd. Not saying that we have nothing to worry about. Rather, we have done something positive regarding what we have to worry about. Consider: when we beat the pats...McK, Scott and Wilson....all had picks and all got them by forcing Brady to overreach...and then making him pay for it. Exactly right. If you create traffic in the throwing lanes you create reduced visibility, as well. Many people never noticed that our lineman did not even blitz last year they just clogged the lanes and put their hands up. When you have to throw over an 8' tall wall on 60% of your field you have to force passes. Also, a point on Lloyd is that sure he may get the 50 yard pass play, but it will not always be a TD. I think as many times as not he will draw a long pass on a pass interference - sketchy or not. That is my only worry with Lloyd. Him receiving 1,000 yards is Gronk, Hernandez, Welker, Branch, Edelson not getting them. Him catching 100 balls is not something I am worried about because Brady prefers to give his balls to Welker, with Gronk being the benefactor of poor coverage and matchups. If you match up Gronk you can stop the Patriots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 McKelvin has all the talent in the world. His ball skills (that sounds bad) just suck. But for all the hate he gets, he never once sulked in public after getting benched last year. He busted his butt covering punts and returning kicks. Carlos Rogers was a bust in Washington, then went to a better SF defense and became a pro bowler. You never want to give up on talent too quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 McKelvin has all the talent in the world. His ball skills (that sounds bad) just suck. But for all the hate he gets, he never once sulked in public after getting benched last year. He busted his butt covering punts and returning kicks. Carlos Rogers was a bust in Washington, then went to a better SF defense and became a pro bowler. You never want to give up on talent too quick. amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Well put Biscuit. This kid has heart. Putting him in Nickel and the play in front of him, might be a Great call by coaches. Go Leodis! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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