The Big Cat Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 You graduated in May and you're worried your career hasn't started yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 i graduated in '86 and am STILL worried about it.... You graduated in May and you're worried your career hasn't started yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Don't be afraid to relocate. It's not easy, but if you really want to be in the area, you can return once you have experience and are in higher demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Don't be afraid to relocate. It's not easy, but if you really want to be in the area, you can return once you have experience and are in higher demand. honestly, if you didnt go away to college, relocating can be a pretty good life experience to try atleast once and its nice to try without wife and kids and everything else down the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 You graduated in May and you're worried your career hasn't started yet? I was gonna say. Mine took about six years to start (in a similar economy). Which is not to discourage you, billsfan89. Just remember: it's a marathon, not a sprint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I was gonna say. Mine took about six years to start (in a similar economy). Which is not to discourage you, billsfan89. Just remember: it's a marathon, not a sprint. That's great advice, billsfan89. I graduated in 06, took a non-career job right out of the gate (b2b telecom sales), decided to get my act together, floundered for a year or two, hit a couple home runs in graduate school, and started my "career" about a year and a half ago. Meanwhile, I have four post-college friends who started the career grind IMMEDIATELY after college and hit a wall before they each turned 28. Two of them went back to business school (what a raging farce that is, even though one of them went to Booth (U of Chicago), the other Kellogg (Northwestern.)Now the Booth grad is knee deep in a job search, while the Kellogg guy has another year, though he's since accepted the reality of having to relocate from Chicago to the Twin Cities for work once he's finished. Another one of my buddies quit his job to play online poker professionally, which worked out well until the Feds clamped down the website and he lost every penny he invested/won/lost in the process, so he now sinks his money into a blog that he runs with friend number four, who quit his job a little over a year go and is now going through a full-on quarter life crisis (white guy problems, yes, but he's a mess). All these guys had their eyes on the prize when they were 22, and have since found their veritable forks in the road. Some of the older posters here will scoff when I say this because they know much more profoundly than I do--but you'll be amazed at home much life you have to live between now and 30. Things get A LOT different when your annual calendar isn't segmented into 9 month increments that refresh every September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 This is all good stuff for me to. Im currently Interning for NYS but I make only 10 grand a year and this is not even close to my end goal. I'm here til thanksgiving but after that I'm really a bit lost on whats next. Ive toyed with Grad school ideas or looking for a job in WNY, but like the OP said the job market sucks and I'm not sure I'm ready to drop thousands of dollars i don't have for a degree I'm not sure i want or need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 none of this advice is aimed at you...this is for billsfan...he asked...butt out...if you want your own advice, start your own damned thread.... This is all good stuff for me to. Im currently Interning for NYS but I make only 10 grand a year and this is not even close to my end goal. I'm here til thanksgiving but after that I'm really a bit lost on whats next. Ive toyed with Grad school ideas or looking for a job in WNY, but like the OP said the job market sucks and I'm not sure I'm ready to drop thousands of dollars i don't have for a degree I'm not sure i want or need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 none of this advice is aimed at you...this is for billsfan...he asked...butt out...if you want your own advice, start your own damned thread.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted July 6, 2012 Author Share Posted July 6, 2012 You graduated in May and you're worried your career hasn't started yet? Its more so because I am only working 20 hours a week making 10.50 an hour. Granted its a job I have been doing for 5 years (And the money isn't terrible) and I don't mind doing it, but without school I just feel like I have a **** load of time on my hands and I can't quite put my finger on why but its got me feeling like I am wasting my time. I don't want to work full time at my current job as I feel like its not something I am passionate about, but I also am not finding a job in my career field. Anyway lots of good advice from you guys, I guess I just have to keep on it and hope for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 You might also consider applying to grad school, as a plan b. So he can get into more debt? No... Grad school is good - but I don't think it's something that should be done until late 20s/early 30s at the earliest. I just completed my Master's degree (at 37) and found that the students who had real-world experience had much better insights and stories to share than the guys who went into grad school right from undergrad. They didn't contribute as much to the courses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I was a Communications major in TV and Radio production (Minor in interpersonal communication). I interned at a production company that did a whole bunch of reality TV shows. My salary expectations aren't that grand as I would be willing to start at 30k or lower and either get the experience or work my way up through a company. As far as relocation I would consider relocation if there was a good offer but I would prefer to stay in my area but relocation isn't off the table. There are only four places to be if you want to work in production: 1. LA 2. LA 3. LA 4. NYC Atlanta and London also have opportunities, but far less than LA or NYC. Getting started in LA is easier than getting started in NYC simply due to the amount of on set opportunities out here. What company did you work for in Reality TV? I have some (limited) connections in that arena. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 NFL Films is in Cherry Hill NJ. ESPN is in Storrs CT, there are plenty of media related production opportunities around There are only four places to be if you want to work in production: 1. LA 2. LA 3. LA 4. NYC Atlanta and London also have opportunities, but far less than LA or NYC. Getting started in LA is easier than getting started in NYC simply due to the amount of on set opportunities out here. What company did you work for in Reality TV? I have some (limited) connections in that arena. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 NFL Films is in Cherry Hill NJ. ESPN is in Storrs CT, there are plenty of media related production opportunities around I think his point is that sure there's a few jobs here and there in other locations, but in LA (and to a lesser extent, NYC), there's a LOT of jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 well of course...but don't limit yourself, there are so many alternatives than NY & LA, sure that may be the glamour job. But, Atlanta has TNT & TBS. A buddy of mine, coincidentally lives near NYC runs his own production company and flys across the country/world to do shows...just got back from Denver where he produced Discovery Channel After the Catch...production companies are all over the place.... I think his point is that sure there's a few jobs here and there in other locations, but in LA (and to a lesser extent, NYC), there's a LOT of jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 NFL Films is in Cherry Hill NJ. ESPN is in Storrs CT, there are plenty of media related production opportunities around NFL Network is in Culver City. They are hiring for various positions right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 NFL Films is in Cherry Hill NJ. ESPN is in Storrs CT, there are plenty of media related production opportunities around Absolutely -- it's just you'll be up against 1,000 people for one job opportunity there. In LA you'll still be up against 1,000 people but there are hundreds more jobs available. And you'll have more exposure to different sorts of production (sports, features, TV, reality, news, documentary) etc where as in NYC you really only get news, sports with a smattering of features, tv and docs thrown in. It's just a numbers game. You can certainly find production jobs anywhere -- it's just easier to get started out here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted July 6, 2012 Author Share Posted July 6, 2012 (edited) There are only four places to be if you want to work in production: 1. LA 2. LA 3. LA 4. NYC Atlanta and London also have opportunities, but far less than LA or NYC. Getting started in LA is easier than getting started in NYC simply due to the amount of on set opportunities out here. What company did you work for in Reality TV? I have some (limited) connections in that arena. I worked/interned for Fake Empire Productions New York they were mainly a typical production company, their biggest client was North South Productions, but once North South pulled out last month they decided to close up shop and bring some of the staff back to LA, the rest were fired. I live in New Jersey and I am told that NYC/Tri-state area is the best place to look for production work outside of LA. But that LA is by far the best to get started. Its just I can't move out there without getting a job first. They were a simple production for hire company. But once North South dropped them it just wasn't worth their while. Edited July 6, 2012 by billsfan89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Where in Jersey are you? I worked/interned for Fake Empire Productions New York they were mainly a typical production company, their biggest client was North South Productions, but once North South pulled out last month they decided to close up shop and bring some of the staff back to LA, the rest were fired. I live in New Jersey and I am told that NYC/Tri-state area is the best place to look for production work outside of LA. But that LA is by far the best to get started. Its just I can't move out there without getting a job first. They were a simple production for hire company. But once North South dropped them it just wasn't worth their while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smears Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I like the, " go to Europe " and " party as much as possible " advice. Soon as you start something (job) worth keeping it will suck you in, and then comes the family. By the time you are through you're 60 years old. I took a year off and saw the country. The things you learn from just experiencing new places will never leave you. Life sometimes moves too fast to enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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