BRAWNDO Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Who says we didn't: 2000 Season W-L (lost both games) 2001 Season W-L (lost both games) Plus don't they both have a record of success against the Pats as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 I wonder what the hell people are thinking when they post stuff like this. SMH Yet someone will ALWAYS agree or support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAWNDO Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 No, we have just been so bad recently that a step up to average or above average (which has yet to be proven) makes us think we are better than what we have proven. Good point. I wonder what the hell people are thinking when they post stuff like this. SMH Well the board needs something to talk about until OTAs start on the 29th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Days Lois & Clark Posted May 20, 2012 Author Share Posted May 20, 2012 Whoever was calling the offense in 1999 and Wade Phillips calling D In 1999 Joe Pendry was the OC and Ted Cotrell was the DC under Wade Phillips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 This is going to be a huge year for Gailey. The very real possibility exists he will actually get to and then surpass DJ's storied won/loss accomplishments here. GO BILLS!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Levy and Marchibroda? Saban and Collier? How can you say that after a six win season? Hell...Mularkey and Jauron could make a claim to be better than Gailey and W. at this point in time. Our best coordinators OC Marchibroda DC Wade Philips ST Bobby April Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAWNDO Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 This is going to be a huge year for Gailey. The very real possibility exists he will actually get to and then surpass DJ's storied won/loss accomplishments here. GO BILLS!! We can only hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missthe kgun Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 In 1999 Joe Pendry was the OC and Ted Cotrell was the DC under Wade Phillips Thank You, they were the best!!! Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 In 1999 Joe Pendry was the OC and Ted Cotrell was the DC under Wade Phillips And the people, and the players HATED Joe Pendry! Of course, Bills fans hated Kevin Gilbride, who has been fairly successful at every stop in his NFL OC career...except...well...I wont' got there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 I think it could be a good combination, but shouldn't half of the combo call a single play for the team before being dubbed the best ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 I was wondering would Chan Gailey and Dave Wannstedt would be the best offensive/defensive play caller combination the Bills ever had together in one season? Did you even watch last season? If you did, you would know the answer right now is a resounding NO. Forget about Wanny for a minute...as much as I like Chan, he had some bone head calls a lot last year. I remember several games where FJ and or CJ were running wild in the first half just to see Chan stop running the ball in the 2nd half and have Fitz throw away the game for us. I mean, CJ in one of his starts had almost a 100 yards and a TD in the first half with another long TD run taken away from an unrelated penalty. Chan in all his infinite wisdom decides to only hand him the ball 3 times in the 2nd half despite only being down 7 points...and of course Fitz stunk it up in the 2nd half and we of course lost a game we could have won. Dont get me wrong, I really like Chan, but to call him the best play caller ever is ridiculous at this point. WAY TOO MANY times he went away from the a run game where we were averaging over 4 and 5 yards per carry, and in some cases over 7 yards per carry, just to throw damn near every play and constantly go three and out. And before someone responds and says well we were always behind...in the instances I am referring to, we were either ahead, tied, or very close behind with no reason to throw every play with a struggling Fitz. Until Chan stops doing his best Mike Martz impression and learns to RUN the ball more when its being so effective (and stop relying on the inconsistent Fitz so much), he can never be considered for one of the best play callers in our history. Especially given how immensely talented our back field is, I mean its easily one of the best in the NFL, if not the best. Our 3rd string RB could be a major of part of a RB rotation on a lot of teams and of course both FJ and CJ would be the best back on the majority of the NFL rosters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Days Lois & Clark Posted May 21, 2012 Author Share Posted May 21, 2012 (edited) Did you even watch last season? If you did, you would know the answer right now is a resounding NO. Forget about Wanny for a minute...as much as I like Chan, he had some bone head calls a lot last year. I remember several games where FJ and or CJ were running wild in the first half just to see Chan stop running the ball in the 2nd half and have Fitz throw away the game for us. I mean, CJ in one of his starts had almost a 100 yards and a TD in the first half with another long TD run taken away from an unrelated penalty. Chan in all his infinite wisdom decides to only hand him the ball 3 times in the 2nd half despite only being down 7 points...and of course Fitz stunk it up in the 2nd half and we of course lost a game we could have won. Dont get me wrong, I really like Chan, but to call him the best play caller ever is ridiculous at this point. WAY TOO MANY times he went away from the a run game where we were averaging over 4 and 5 yards per carry, and in some cases over 7 yards per carry, just to throw damn near every play and constantly go three and out. And before someone responds and says well we were always behind...in the instances I am referring to, we were either ahead, tied, or very close behind with no reason to throw every play with a struggling Fitz. Until Chan stops doing his best Mike Martz impression and learns to RUN the ball more when its being so effective (and stop relying on the inconsistent Fitz so much), he can never be considered for one of the best play callers in our history. Especially given how immensely talented our back field is, I mean its easily one of the best in the NFL, if not the best. Our 3rd string RB could be a major of part of a RB rotation on a lot of teams and of course both FJ and CJ would be the best back on the majority of the NFL rosters. So who has been a better offensive and defensive play calling combination that the Bills have ever had in 1 specific season? Edited May 21, 2012 by Superhero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyHorseAteTheKid Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 If we could have had Ted Marchibroda and Wade Phillips on the side lines at the same time, that combo would have been my favorite... I thought they were the best in the league when they were calling plays for the Bills... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 I cannot believe this topic exist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Days Lois & Clark Posted May 21, 2012 Author Share Posted May 21, 2012 I cannot believe this topic exist Why? Who is the best offensive and defensive play callers the Bills ever had in one season? We all know how important coaching is but so few people have an answer to the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 I cannot believe this topic exist Welcome to the offseason at TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 (edited) So who has been a better offensive and defensive play calling combination that the Bills have ever had in 1 specific season? It doesn't matter...the question was are these two the best and my answer was a resounding NO for the reasons I stated in my original post. Other posters have already touched on a number of people that should be considered better play callers, no need to keep repeating them. So again, the answer is NO, not until A) Chan stops doing his best Mike Martz impression and not running the ball more despite having one of the most talented, if not the most talented, backfield in the NFL (and Fitz is no Kurt Warner)) and B) Wanny actually calls a play considering he has yet to call a single play as a Buffalo Bills DC. I mean, how can you even attempt to call them the best play calling duo in Bills history when one of them has NEVER called a play for this team yet as our DC? Seriously, this thread is a bit silly at this stage as no one can honestly answer yes at this point. Edited May 21, 2012 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBill Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 Ted Marchibroda and Jim Kelly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 Exactly and Walt Cory sucked as a DC, look at our D rankings during the superbowl run. Not exactly blowing the doors off the league. AND the sad thing is, look at the amazing talent he had to work with! maybe Phil Hansen and Jeff Wright and Mark kelso werent the worlds greatest talents? Our 87-88-89 D our 98-99 D and 64-65 D were our best. Huge mistake letting Fred go.Cost us the superbowl. ..not a big fan of Chan(as a head coach) or Wanny. Hope they prove me wrong this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Days Lois & Clark Posted May 22, 2012 Author Share Posted May 22, 2012 Last year was the first season the Bills finished in the top half of the league in offense since 2002. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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