Best 5TH round draft ever

[1B4IDie]

Wow!

 

The Bills certaintly caught some major talent falling through the draft.

 

I liked Zebrie as 3rd rounder.

 

And look you get Tank the Tank in the 5th sure to be a fan favorite.

 

If I just switch TJ Whatshisname with Sanders, this is looking like an A draft.

 

Pretty happy now.

[nucci]

Wow!

 

The Bills certaintly caught some major talent falling through the draft.

 

I liked Zebrie as 3rd rounder.

 

And look you get Tank the Tank in the 5th sure to be a fan favorite.

 

If I just switch TJ Whatshisname with Sanders, this is looking like an A draft.

 

Pretty happy now.

Someone else said the same thing earlier. His last name is Graham.

[Bruce]

I don't know how anybody can get excited about draft picks unless they are 1st round talent and until a.) training camp starts and the player drafted displays reasons why he deserves to make the opening day roster and b.) said player doesn't get hurt in camp.

 

Also- everyone likes to dog Bills draft picks from Buddy's first year, but it takes time for draft picks to develop. 3-5 years.

 

I don't see any sense in criticizing picks unless it 3+ years in; and I likewise don't see any sense in getting excited about players that basically, at this point, are unproven at the NFL level and just fill a position on the team.

 

If these guys make the roster and contribute, then I'll be celebrating!

[1B4IDie]

I don't know how anybody can get excited about draft picks unless they are 1st round talent and until a.) training camp starts and the player drafted displays reasons why he deserves to make the opening day roster and b.) said player doesn't get hurt in camp.

 

Also- everyone likes to dog Bills draft picks from Buddy's first year, but it takes time for draft picks to develop. 3-5 years.

 

I don't see any sense in criticizing picks unless it 3+ years in; and I likewise don't see any sense in getting excited about players that basically, at this point, are unproven at the NFL level and just fill a position on the team.

 

If these guys make the roster and contribute, then I'll be celebrating!

Then don't check this board or post during the draft, if you don't understand.

[Reed83HOF]

Also- everyone likes to dog Bills draft picks from Buddy's first year, but it takes time for draft picks to develop. 3-5 years.

 

Buddy's first real draft was last year when he didn't have to rely on Modrak and our old scouts...

[bbb]

I was thinking about how this is the happiest I've ever seen our fan base, at least in the Internet age, about a draft.......And, then I thought about Modrak being gone and if there is a connection?!?

[buffaloboyinATL]

Wow!

 

The Bills certaintly caught some major talent falling through the draft.

 

 

If I just switch TJ Whatshisname with Sanders, this is looking like an A draft.

 

Pretty happy now.

I think people are greatly under-estimating the impact this guy will have on special teams and offense. Chan knows how to use this type of athlete. Even if we overspent a bit for him, we should now enjoy the fact that he is on our team.

[jjmac]

I was thinking about how this is the happiest I've ever seen our fan base, at least in the Internet age, about a draft.......And, then I thought about Modrak being gone and if there is a connection?!?

 

Last vestige of the Tom Donahoe era?

[deep2evans]

I don't know how anybody can get excited about draft picks unless they are 1st round talent and until a.) training camp starts and the player drafted displays reasons why he deserves to make the opening day roster and b.) said player doesn't get hurt in camp.

 

Also- everyone likes to dog Bills draft picks from Buddy's first year, but it takes time for draft picks to develop. 3-5 years.

 

I don't see any sense in criticizing picks unless it 3+ years in; and I likewise don't see any sense in getting excited about players that basically, at this point, are unproven at the NFL level and just fill a position on the team.

 

If these guys make the roster and contribute, then I'll be celebrating!

 

even though i'm a sucker for the draft, this is dead on the money.

[Bud Adams]

I don't know how anybody can get excited about draft picks unless they are 1st round talent and until a.) training camp starts and the player drafted displays reasons why he deserves to make the opening day roster and b.) said player doesn't get hurt in camp.

 

Also- everyone likes to dog Bills draft picks from Buddy's first year, but it takes time for draft picks to develop. 3-5 years.

 

I don't see any sense in criticizing picks unless it 3+ years in; and I likewise don't see any sense in getting excited about players that basically, at this point, are unproven at the NFL level and just fill a position on the team.

 

If these guys make the roster and contribute, then I'll be celebrating!

 

So can we FINALLY call McKelvin a bust and move onward?

[bbb]

So can we FINALLY call McKelvin a bust and move onward?

 

I wonder this will help McKelvin. He can cover really well. He just has no ball skills - can't time his jump, etc. Maybe now he will be on on a much lesser receiver - will be able to cover him, and it won't be a #1 type who has great ball skills, so the QB won't throw a jump ball to the guy?

[Lurker]

And, then I thought about Modrak being gone and if there is a connection?!?

Even more than Donahoe, I've been thinking that Modrak was the cause of the clusterfluck drafting we suffered through during those dark days.

 

TD wasn't a personnel guy (more like fantasy football geek) and relied on Modrak's board and evaluations to our detriment.

 

I'll never forget a comment Donahoe made when we drafted Mike Williams--that he'd never interviewed him prior to the pick!

 

Garbage in, garbage out...

[San Jose Bills Fan]

I wonder this will help McKelvin. He can cover really well. He just has no ball skills - can't time his jump, etc. Maybe now he will be on on a much lesser receiver - will be able to cover him, and it won't be a #1 type who has great ball skills, so the QB won't throw a jump ball to the guy?

Based on the people you hang out with, I don't know whether I can give much credence to your opinions.

 

 

 

 

[John from Riverside]

I think its a combo of things

 

- Keep in mind that this is the first year in what seems like an eternity that the bills were major players in free agency.....they had the money to spend....but they ended up "waiting for the blue light special" and then ended up giving stupid money to players that didnt deserve it.....but that is kinda getting on a tangent

 

- With weaknesses identified and addressed......with players resigned......we allowed the draft to come to us......we went bpa in the rounds....and were rewarded not only with quality.....but needs fell to us as well (glenn)

 

- I expected a sanders type OL pick as the remedy to our needs.....instead we got him AND we got a 1st round talent in the second......

 

 

This draft played out perfectly for us because we didnt sit back in free agency....if we would have had to take Melvin Engram for pass rush the draft would have fell much differently for us

[3rdand12]

So can we FINALLY call McKelvin a bust and move onward?

nope we cant. as you may recall... he was quite good after being sent back to returns only. will he ever be a #2 corner? not likely, but i think he will play as hard as he can for us till contract is due and we will value him correctly at that time. Then see if he can fit here.

We did the right thing with McGee and he accepted. Florence will be in the same boat soon enough, and we will draft two more corners next year so these guys will decide their own fate come next contract.

Wanny must know that we cant leave Leodis alone in coverage on the outside anyway

[Reed83HOF]

Even more than Donahoe, I've been thinking that Modrak was the cause of the clusterfluck drafting we suffered through during those dark days.

 

TD wasn't a personnel guy (more like fantasy football geek) and relied on Modrak's board and evaluations to our detriment.

 

I'll never forget a comment Donahoe made when we drafted Mike Williams--that he'd never interviewed him prior to the pick!

 

Garbage in, garbage out...

 

Buddy, like Polian and Butler is a scout through and through. I love what Buddy is doing with Whaley and making him go scout players. TD was never a scout and relied on people like Modrak & Guy. The way to be a great GM is to be able to scout players yourself.

 

The effects of Butler leaving crippled this franchise as he took the entire scouting department with him. TD came is and filled positions he just never got the right people and they lasted here until Nix got rid of them. We were dumb enough after sacking TD we kept these guys until Buddy tossed them out. In hindsight it is a head scratcher that no one was able to identify this as an issue until Nix. Yeah Levy is a HOF coach and not a GM, but being as smart as he is, he should have seen the issues...

 

Leo Roth's article today Link is hilarious, but true...

 

"Buddy Nix is everybody’s favorite uncle.

 

You look forward to going over to his house, just to hear him talk. He hands out silver dollars, tells jokes, has hard candy in a dish. You trust him with your football team.

 

In the pantheon — and some years it’s been more like an outhouse — of Buffalo Bills general managers, Tom Donahoe was your mean next door neighbor. He blew leaves on your lawn, called the police on your dog, locked his door and turned off the lights on Halloween. You didn’t trust him with your football team.

 

Bill Polian? Well, back in the day, he could be as cantankerous as a mountain lion with a thorn in its paw, but when he spoke, the sea parted. Did you catch him on ESPN? You trusted him with your football team and there are four AFC title trophies in a shiny case at One Bills Drive to remind you why."

[bbb]

I was thinking that after listening to Buddy's after draft presser live on GR last night. He just cracks me up. I love listening to Marv, and I now love listening to Buddy.

 

Everybody - a 21 year old kid - was "that old boy.".........He's talking about the LSU secondary and he's like "That guy with that nickname that I can't remember." The press corps are probably saying Honey Badger all at the same time and he goes "Yeah, yeah - Honey Bear. Or whatever. What I know is that guy can make plays."

[benderbender]

I don't know how anybody can get excited about draft picks unless they are 1st round talent and until a.) training camp starts and the player drafted displays reasons why he deserves to make the opening day roster and b.) said player doesn't get hurt in camp.

 

Also- everyone likes to dog Bills draft picks from Buddy's first year, but it takes time for draft picks to develop. 3-5 years.

 

I don't see any sense in criticizing picks unless it 3+ years in; and I likewise don't see any sense in getting excited about players that basically, at this point, are unproven at the NFL level and just fill a position on the team.

 

If these guys make the roster and contribute, then I'll be celebrating!

Did you celebrate your 21st birthday after 3-5 years? Geez, don't let anyone get amped up, it might lead to rampant optimism and we just don't have enough miserable souls at TSW to counter it with endless gloom and sarcasm.

[BuckeyeBill]

I agree that the fifth round was quite a find.

 

Zerbie and Tank both were quality starters for very talented teams. They were both leaders on their respective teams and both have a large amount of playing experience.

 

I guess you could say that about most of the picks.

 

What I have noticed about the draft overall:

 

1. High quality people. High character with no red flags. No Dre Kirkpatrick's or Janoris Jenkins'.

2. High quality talent. Mostly from the SEC, no high potential talent from small schools.

3. No injury concerns. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the Bills didn't draft anybody who missed extensive time because of injury, did they? Even Carder (who had three surgeries) never missed a start.

4. Extensive playing experience. No "one year wonders", most were three or four year starters... some with more than 50 games of experience.

 

The four factors above very much limit the "bust factor" IMHO.

Edited April 30, 2012 by BuckeyeBill

[NickelCity]

With regard to the title of this thread, I have been saying that this draft had the best fourth and fifth rounds I can remember. They really brought the whole thing together.