DC Tom Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Simultaneously, the New Black Panthers are offering $10,000 to anyone willing to kill Zimmerman. And $10k more to plant Skittles on the body... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 I'm not sure I've seen a larger indictment of our society. Absolutely pathetic display from virtually every angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 I'm not sure I've seen a larger indictment of our society. Absolutely pathetic display from virtually every angle. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) Not sure it has been mentioned or not, I have been trying to catch up on this thread but I find it funny that the picture they are using of him was when he was 15. He had his "grill" in that night and has tats. Not that it is a big issue, but he isn't the school boy he was at 13. Also, I find it both sad and empowering that there is a candle light vigil for him tongiht in Winston-Salem. Edited March 26, 2012 by jboyst62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 I want to know why Mikhail Muhammed, leader of the New Black Panthers hasn't been charged for offering money for the death of George Zimmerman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 I was referring somewhat to the accumulation but primarily to the link Jack posted. http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-26/news/os-trayvon-martin-zimmerman-account-20120326_1_miami-schools-civil-rights-punch Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 He created the situation? So the next time someone asks me where Im going I can break their nose, slam their head against the concrete and go for their gun? http://gma.yahoo.com/trayvon-martin-shooter-told-cops-teenager-went-gun-030349812--abc-news.html That tidbit is helpful in painting a picture but in the grand scheme of things it's relatively inconsequential. The dispatcher's advice is in no way binding upon him, nor did he issue a command, just told him he didn't need to do that. Suppose you see someone acting suspicious and you're worried he might be a predator. Calling the cops and tailing the guy to let the cops know where he's going could save someone from getting raped or killed. The guy getting tailed might not like it and could call the cops himself and say there's a creepy guy following him. He doesn't have the right to attack someone for following him and it doesn't forclose the follower's right to defend himself if attacked. A few months ago a strange guy was on my friend's neighbor's porch after 2 am peering through the window. I approached him and asked him who he was looking for and why he was there. I was also locked and loaded at the time. It turns out he was up to no good so we called the cops. I don't believe I invited him to attack me. It's hardly inconsequential. The kid was at his GF's father's house and was returning from a trip to a 7-11 and was unarmed. While his actions (if he indeed attacked Zimmerman first) were in no way justified, Zimmerman did create the unfortunate situation when he confronted Martin. As for the dispatcher's advice, why call the cops if you're not going to heed their advice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 It's hardly inconsequential. The kid was at his GF's father's house and was returning from a trip to a 7-11 and was unarmed. While his actions (if he indeed attacked Zimmerman first) were in no way justified, Zimmerman did create the unfortunate situation when he confronted Martin. As for the dispatcher's advice, why call the cops if you're not going to heed their advice? You're missing the point, and I'm surprised because you're normally fairly sound (in these parts anyway). You're injecting your speculation just like BFMF was. Take the principle you're espousing outside of this particular incident and apply it broadly. You're essentially saying that any time you see a potential predator acting suspicious mind your business and keep going. And he obviously wasn't calling the cops for advice, much less the advice of a !@#$ing dispatcher. That would be like me asking the 16 year old working the counter at the pharmacy for medical advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Don't you !@#$s understand? They shot President BO's son! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Take the principle you're espousing outside of this particular incident and apply it broadly. You're essentially saying that any time you see a potential predator acting suspicious mind your business and keep going. So are you saying that's what Zimmerman should have done, or that's what Martin should have done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 So are you saying that's what Zimmerman should have done, or that's what Martin should have done? No way to tell, as nobody knows what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 So are you saying that's what Zimmerman should have done, or that's what Martin should have done? No, Zimmerman, clearly. If you're the black guy you're well within your rights to beat the other guy senseless. Get with the times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 No, Zimmerman, clearly. If you're the black guy you're well within your rights to beat the other guy senseless. Get with the times. Especially if it's Dave in Elma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 You're missing the point, and I'm surprised because you're normally fairly sound (in these parts anyway). You're injecting your speculation just like BFMF was. Take the principle you're espousing outside of this particular incident and apply it broadly. You're essentially saying that any time you see a potential predator acting suspicious mind your business and keep going. And he obviously wasn't calling the cops for advice, much less the advice of a !@#$ing dispatcher. That would be like me asking the 16 year old working the counter at the pharmacy for medical advice. I have no skin in this game, Rob. I'm only going by what's been reported. The facts are that Martin was in the gated community because his GF's father lived there, he was visiting her there, he went out to a 7-11, returned, and while talking on his cell phone was approached by Zimmerman, who later shot and killed him. He was unarmed. Piecing things together, he wasn't originally there to cause trouble, but trouble found him. What likely set-off Zimmerman was Martin running because he thought someone was following him (as stated by his GF). This led Zimmerman to confront Martin, who by one witness account started beating-up Zimmerman, and that led Zimmerman to shoot him. The point I'm trying to make is that if Zimmerman didn't get out of his car and approach Martin, none of this would have happened. We can argue the merits of vigilante justice, but my point was to say that Zimmerman escalated things when he confronted Martin, at which point Martin wrongly escalated things further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I have no skin in this game, Rob. I'm only going by what's been reported. The facts are that Martin was in the gated community because his GF's father lived there, he was visiting her there, he went out to a 7-11, returned, and while talking on his cell phone was approached by Zimmerman, who later shot and killed him. He was unarmed. Piecing things together, he wasn't originally there to cause trouble, but trouble found him. What likely set-off Zimmerman was Martin running because he thought someone was following him (as stated by his GF). This led Zimmerman to confront Martin, who by one witness account started beating-up Zimmerman, and that led Zimmerman to shoot him. The point I'm trying to make is that if Zimmerman didn't get out of his car and approach Martin, none of this would have happened. We can argue the merits of vigilante justice, but my point was to say that Zimmerman escalated things when he confronted Martin, at which point Martin wrongly escalated things further. Is anyone arguing that Zimmerman isn't culpable? I think the real question at this point is whether he's criminally liable, or civilly liable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_In_Norfolk Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Suspend for marijuana? Obviously he was violent then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Suspend for marijuana? Obviously he was violent then! That's what's been missing from my life. Your particular flavor of aimless retardedness. Now I feel validated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_In_Norfolk Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 That's what's been missing from my life. Your particular flavor of aimless retardedness. Now I feel validated. Yes, my posts are the solution to whats missing in your life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/trayvon-martin-trademarks-769123 "Sybrina Fulton is seeking marks for the phrases “I Am Trayvon” and “Justice for Trayvon,” according to filings made last week with the United States Patent and Trademark Office. In both instances, Fulton, 46, is seeking the trademarks for use on “Digital materials, namely, CDs and DVDs featuring Trayvon Martin,” and other products." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Yes, my posts are the solution to whats missing in your life Just because I'm not missing a hell of a lot. You provide a little bit of additional laughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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