FredEx Delivers Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Poor showing at the combine. 5.09 sec 40, 30.0 in vert, 104.0 in broad jump at 6'1" 248 lbs. Do people still want him with our #41 pick? I just can't see him coming to Buffalo, especially with his character issues, not the kind of guy Nix likes. It seems like this FO wants a guy who knows how to carry themselves not just on the field, but off the field as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 He just lost himself a ton of money. Probably a later 2nd day/early 3rd day pick now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Yea he's mid to late rounds. That does confirm what many here have been saying about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VADC Bills Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) Poor showing at the combine. 5.09 sec 40, 30.0 in vert, 104.0 in broad jump at 6'1" 248 lbs. Do people still want him with our #41 pick? I just can't see him coming to Buffalo, especially with his character issues, not the kind of guy Nix likes. It seems like this FO wants a guy who knows how to carry themselves not just on the field, but off the field as well. It would be nice if he went 3rd or 4th round because he plays like a monster on the field and that's what the GM's will be looking at. Think Brandon Spikes a few years ago. I think Barnett's feedback will be valued here if the Bills are interested and I think they are based on the time spent scouting the school. Character issues...I would like to see the Bills get some talent as opposed to the great character losers that we have been getting. I'm not saying he is the guy but is he any worse character wise than Lynch, Henry, Bruce, or Moulds??? I would have no problem drafting him with a 3rd or 4th. I don't like putting a ton of stock in the combine because they do everything but play football there. It is for people that appreciate the stats more than some of the intangibles of the game. What drills tell how hard someone hits, how well they shed blocks, their ability to cause turnovers, ability to read defenses or react to blitz.... Are we allowed to question the character of the GM's and FO's that can not produce a winning team but gladly takes money from a solid and loyal fan base? Edited February 27, 2012 by VADC Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) It would be nice if he went 3rd or 4th round because he plays like a monster on the field and that's what the GM's will be looking at. Think Brandon Spikes a few years ago. I think Barnett's feedback will be valued here if the Bills are interested and I think they are based on the time spent scouting the school. Character issues...I would like to see the Bills get some talent as opposed to the great character losers that we have been getting. I'm not saying he is the guy but is he any worse character wise than Lynch, Henry, Bruce, or Moulds??? I would have no problem drafting him with a 3rd or 4th. I don't like putting a ton of stock in the combine because they do everything but play football there. It is for people that appreciate the stats more than some of the intangibles of the game. What drills tell how hard someone hits, how well they shed blocks, their ability to cause turnovers, ability to read defenses or react to blitz.... Are we allowed to question the character of the GM's and FO's that can not produce a winning team but gladly takes money from a solid and loyal fan base? Yes, even worse, because his problems are all on the field when it counts the most. If you are very good, and help the team win, fans will excuse stuff from your personal life. But you cant be an a-hole on the field, not make plays, and then do stuff that directly loses games. THAT is the definition of poor football character. You've never seen anyone here criticize our GMs and FOs? Are you new here? Edited February 27, 2012 by DrDareustein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I don't think a poor combine will knock Burfict lower than round 2. People like his passion and his football sense, which aren't going to show up in Indy. If he can play SAM, I think round 2 is a possibility. I'd feel pretty good about Perry and Burfict. You? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I don't think a poor combine will knock Burfict lower than round 2. People like his passion and his football sense, which aren't going to show up in Indy. If he can play SAM, I think round 2 is a possibility. I'd feel pretty good about Perry and Burfict. You? Which people? YouTube fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VADC Bills Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) Yes, even worse, because his problems are all on the field when it counts the most. If you are very good, and help the team win, fans will excuse stuff from your personal life. But you cant be an a-hole on the field, not make plays, and then do stuff that directly loses games. THAT is the definition of poor football character. You've never seen anyone here criticize our GMs and FOs? Are you new here? I have seen people criticize our GM's And FO but not the character of them. Are you saying criminal or bad behavior off of the field is not as bad as on field stupidity??? Edited February 27, 2012 by VADC Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I have seen people criticize our GM's And FO but not the character of them. What has our FO done to make us question their character? You see Nix running people down on Chipewa? Doug Whaley fathering more kids than China? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I don't think a poor combine will knock Burfict lower than round 2. People like his passion and his football sense, which aren't going to show up in Indy. If he can play SAM, I think round 2 is a possibility. I'd feel pretty good about Perry and Burfict. You? Now reports are he had the worst interviews of the combine as well. He's falling fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 so is this before or after our N.Barnett's required mentoring? Maybe it's a secret ploy of ours.shh But those combine stats are really damaging imo. 5.09? seriously something is amiss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilsAlum Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 No one wants a Sun Devil on the Bills more than me but this guy is a cancer. Fat, lazy, undisciplined and unproductive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billnutinphoenix Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 No one wants a Sun Devil on the Bills more than me but this guy is a cancer. Fat, lazy, undisciplined and unproductive. OUCH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 No one wants a Sun Devil on the Bills more than me but this guy is a cancer. Fat, lazy, undisciplined and unproductive. He is the definition of wasting potential. He's going to regret a lot of these decisions in college one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) Which people? YouTube fans? These people. http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2921 Look. They're just guessing and so are we. I think most people had Burfect in the top part of the draft. If he flames out, so what. He's not a Bills type of guy. Now reports are he had the worst interviews of the combine as well. He's falling fast. I hear you...but who would report that? Edited February 28, 2012 by JPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 These people. http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2921 Look. They're just guessing and so are we. I think most people had Burfect in the top part of the draft. If he flames out, so what. He's not a Bills type of guy. I hear you...but who would report that? My point, he's been falling far for 12 months. Still gets a lot of residual copy and paste off old reports but none of it's up to date. He played slow, out of control and missed assignments all year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 My point, he's been falling far for 12 months. Still gets a lot of residual copy and paste off old reports but none of it's up to date. He played slow, out of control and missed assignments all year. Point taken. He IS one of the stories of this draft. His placement is nothing if not interesting.... BTW, I just saw his 5.10 40 run. WOW (that's a bad wow). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) Point taken. He IS one of the stories of this draft. His placement is nothing if not interesting.... BTW, I just saw his 5.10 40 run. WOW (that's a bad wow). Yea. That's mediocre for a 300 lbs guy. His fall from the top ten is a sad story indeed, and I dont see it stopping anytime soon. For reference - among the 40 stories last year was fairly edging dareus with 4.8s vs 4.9s Edited February 28, 2012 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Could be a bust, could be Ray Lewis2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I didn't really watch him this year but I'm really surprised at how poorly he did in the 40 and jumping- undisciplined I believed but I swear two years ago he looked fast and explosive, oh well another cautionary tale about a player who going in the forth round instead of the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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