st. pete gogolak Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Why do you people torture yourselves? This team isn't going to sign anybody o consequence. Winner, winner, chicken dinner. What big name free agents did we sign this year? Brad Smith (waste of money) and Nick Barnett (nice pick-up). How about the year before? Cornell Green, Andra Davis and Dwan Edwards. How about the year before that? Drayton Florence? (I'm doing this from memory, can't go back that far.) I've love to see the Bills go after someone like Vincent Jackson and free them from having to draft a wide receiver but it never, ever happens. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan in n.h Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 how about josh scobie??? we need a GOOD kicker.too bad coaches cant be free agents,sign wade back Winner, winner, chicken dinner. What big name free agents did we sign this year? Brad Smith (waste of money) and Nick Barnett (nice pick-up). How about the year before? Cornell Green, Andra Davis and Dwan Edwards. How about the year before that? Drayton Florence? (I'm doing this from memory, can't go back that far.) I've love to see the Bills go after someone like Vincent Jackson and free them from having to draft a wide receiver but it never, ever happens. Ever. we do go after big names.we bring them in and take them to dinner and insult them with a league minimum salary.then they leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 we do go after big names.we bring them in and take them to dinner and insult them with a league minimum salary.then they leave. Like when we out-bid the Falcons for Clabo, but he decided to go with the hometown/winner discount? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Why do you people torture yourselves? This team isn't going to sign anybody o consequence. No kidding. It remains an exercise in futility, and it wouldn't surprise me if they did less than in previous years with season ticket sales probably declining significantly. Winner, winner, chicken dinner. What big name free agents did we sign this year? Brad Smith (waste of money) and Nick Barnett (nice pick-up). How about the year before? Cornell Green, Andra Davis and Dwan Edwards. How about the year before that? Drayton Florence? (I'm doing this from memory, can't go back that far.) I've love to see the Bills go after someone like Vincent Jackson and free them from having to draft a wide receiver but it never, ever happens. Ever. 2009 UFA: Drayton Florence, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Terrell Owens, and Geoff Hangartner. I'd argue they're spending less in UFA each year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift Sylvan Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I think we have about 5-6 starters from FA which to me seems pretty significant. Florence, Merriman, Pears, Fitzpatrick, D Edwards, Barnett. Or are facts ruining our argument....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I think we have about 5-6 starters from FA which to me seems pretty significant. Florence, Merriman, Pears, Fitzpatrick, D Edwards, Barnett. Or are facts ruining our argument....? Merriman was picked up off waivers. Pears was a street FA signed late in 2010. These acquisitions are very much different than signing someone off the open market during the first 2 weeks of free agency when the new league year starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Merriman was picked up off waivers. Pears was a street FA signed late in 2010. These acquisitions are very much different than signing someone off the open market during the first 2 weeks of free agency when the new league year starts. Oh, only the first 2 weeks count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 whoever they do sign theyll cut the position they bring in a have zero depth like usual. "failing to plan is a plan to fail" this team never plans on depth. its maddening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SactoBillFan Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Cam Newton's contract was 4yr/$22mil guaranteed. That isnt that much in NFL terms. Luck will not get much more. I doubt it. Didn't the owners get a rookie salary cap with the new agreement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I doubt it. Didn't the owners get a rookie salary cap with the new agreement? What? The new CBA has a rookie wage pool, not really a cap, but we're getting into semantics. This past draft class was the first to be signed under the new rules. Newton's entire contract ($22mil) was half of Stafford's signing bonus from 2009 ($72mil, $42 guaranteed). So you can expect rookie contracts to be similar to last year's. Maybe a little higher as the cap and pool numbers go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Sure there is, but you don't think he's isn't the #1 priority for the Texans? I just don't think he'll make it to the free agent market. I'd be shocked. He's going to possibly be the richest defender in the NFL - you don't give that to a guy 6 games into his career at OLB, you give it to a probowl 43 end. He and the texans both know it. Maybe they franchise him but he knows what he's worth on the market playing his natural position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clippers of Nfl Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Brother of John and son of Sarah lmao. terminator talk. nice Why do you people torture yourselves? This team isn't going to sign anybody o consequence. yes they will a kicker a punter and long snapper. all 3 guys will be playing marbles at obd on day 1 free agency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauderswr80 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Even our GM says they won't be active in the market....who the hell says that? Our GM that's who.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clippers of Nfl Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Even our GM says they won't be active in the market....who the hell says that? Our GM that's who.... that's lame. ralph is cheap AND racist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostradamus Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 No kidding. It remains an exercise in futility, and it wouldn't surprise me if they did less than in previous years with season ticket sales probably declining significantly. 2009 UFA: Drayton Florence, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Terrell Owens, and Geoff Hangartner. I'd argue they're spending less in UFA each year. It doesn't help that while other GM's are chartering private Jets around the country with Champagne and hookers at the stroke of midnight on the first day of free agency to try and land a prized free agent, Buddy admits to being home sleeping. What an arrogant prick. It's that same kind of arrogance that enabled him to draft Torell Troup over, the, I don't know, 100 other players that were, by consensus, thought to be better football players than the second team Conference USA defensive tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SactoBillFan Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 What? The new CBA has a rookie wage pool, not really a cap, but we're getting into semantics. This past draft class was the first to be signed under the new rules. Newton's entire contract ($22mil) was half of Stafford's signing bonus from 2009 ($72mil, $42 guaranteed). So you can expect rookie contracts to be similar to last year's. Maybe a little higher as the cap and pool numbers go up. My bad. I missed the not in your original post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Why do you people torture yourselves? This team isn't going to sign anybody o consequence. This. None of the top tier FAs anyway. They make pick up an average starter or some role players after the top guys are gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 No thanks on Bowe. We don't need Defensive depth, we have it. We need starters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clippers of Nfl Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 It doesn't help that while other GM's are chartering private Jets around the country with Champagne and hookers at the stroke of midnight on the first day of free agency to try and land a prized free agent, Buddy admits to being home sleeping. What an arrogant prick. It's that same kind of arrogance that enabled him to draft Torell Troup over, the, I don't know, 100 other players that were, by consensus, thought to be better football players than the second team Conference USA defensive tackle. and nix buddy and gailey all share 1 horse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offyourocker Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 your Top 3 free agents for the bill this off season. realistically brees being the franchise guy and foster being restricted is out of the question. mario williams is also out for now i would be shocked if he went anywhere. free agents link mine are 1.)Robert Mathis-would be a team turn around pick up. Colts are also broke..draft luck....trade manning to free up money... 2.)Dwayne Bowe-one of the things that i felt we needed this year the most on offense was that big go get it type of guy. i saw a little of it in nelson but bowe would be a great pick up especially if fitz continues to struggle with the deep ball. 3.)Dan Connor-good value pick that i could see the bills picking up to help out. That will definitivelly happen as the Bills spend on some serious money on free agents that make them competitive every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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