GG Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Good to have that few $$ million savings at the beginning of the year, wasn't it? To bad you're now down a few million at the end of the year because 15,000-20,000 fans won't bother showing up anymore. Nice job. Speaking of which, if you worked for any other industry, you'd be out on your can a long time ago. Darn shame that everyone else gets the blame for the sorry play of this team, except for you & Littman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Good to have that few $$ million savings at the beginning of the year, wasn't it? To bad you're now down a few million at the end of the year because 15,000-20,000 fans won't bother showing up anymore. Nice job. Speaking of which, if you worked for any other industry, you'd be out on your can a long time ago. Darn shame that everyone else gets the blame for the sorry play of this team, except for you & Littman. I think Overdorf and Littman have taken a lot of criticism here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 wash and repeat. Same story. Different players, GM, coaches. The constants are the ones who should be criticized and nobody else: Wilson, Littman, Brandon, and Overdorf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Aren't there some secretaries to blame as well? PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 I think Overdorf and Littman have taken a lot of criticism here. They're running the team for RW now, so why not? If there wasn't a salary floor one can only imagine what they'd do to the roster. Sure, Buddy and the gang get to talk about the draft every year and give a sound byte here and there, but there are still too many decisions taken out of their hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Aren't there some secretaries to blame as well? Very persuasive argument, Robo. Fire the secretaries too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDD Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 (edited) I know of Overdorf and Brandon, but who is Littman? Edited December 5, 2011 by Mr. Wonderful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRM33064 Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Funny ... I don't think Uncle Ralph sheds too many tears when he reviews the annual financials. We're cranky customers, we bi*** and moan, we (including myself) issue empty threats ("I'm done with this team!"), but come July it's a different story. Every year. We're addicted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Aren't there some secretaries to blame as well? PTR No, they're the ones that have to deal with the public when people decide to call One Bills Drive to give them a piece of their mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 They're running the team for RW now, so why not? If there wasn't a salary floor one can only imagine what they'd do to the roster. Sure, Buddy and the gang get to talk about the draft every year and give a sound byte here and there, but there are still too many decisions taken out of their hands. I agree. I was just stating that they have taken much deserved criticism. The OP seemed to imply that we have ignored these people and it's not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 I agree. I was just stating that they have taken much deserved criticism. The OP seemed to imply that we have ignored these people and it's not true. I think the only people in the stadium we haven't taken a shot at on this board are the concession staffs...those slow bast#@!$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 They're running the team for RW now, so why not? If there wasn't a salary floor one can only imagine what they'd do to the roster. Sure, Buddy and the gang get to talk about the draft every year and give a sound byte here and there, but there are still too many decisions taken out of their hands. Absolutely, Littman is most famous for having a disagreement (about budget and spending) with Bill Polian during the Super Bowl run. And Ralph fired Polian who went on to the GM job in Carolina (got them to the Super Bowl) and then to the Colts where he remains today. Littman and Overdorf have final say over all decisions made at OBD. Whatever the org chart might say reality is that Nix reports to them and they report to Mr. Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Absolutely, Littman is most famous for having a disagreement (about budget and spending) with Bill Polian during the Super Bowl run. And Ralph fired Polian who went on to the GM job in Carolina (got them to the Super Bowl) and then to the Colts where he remains today. Littman and Overdorf have final say over all decisions made at OBD. Whatever the org chart might say reality is that Nix reports to them and they report to Mr. Wilson. You know this how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 5, 2011 Author Share Posted December 5, 2011 I agree. I was just stating that they have taken much deserved criticism. The OP seemed to imply that we have ignored these people and it's not true. The rightful criticism usually gets buried. Just do a quick glance at the front page and you'd be hard pressed to fight posts or topics that aim at the upper echelon of the front office. I'm not the biggest Buddy Nix fan, but even his limitations are made more glaring by the handcuffs he operates under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 FWIW, the man's name is spelled Littmann. Here is some rant feed: http://www.buffalobills.com/about-us/front-office.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 5, 2011 Author Share Posted December 5, 2011 FWIW, the man's name is spelled Littmann. Here is some rant feed: http://www.buffalobi...ont-office.html You say Littmann I say Littman, Littman, Littmann, let's call the whole thing off. Cash to cap baby!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 You say Littmann I say Littman, Littman, Littmann, let's call the whole thing off. Cash to cap baby!! The Bills are still making money. Isn't that the definition of highly successful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Wright's Mullet Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Good to have that few $$ million savings at the beginning of the year, wasn't it? To bad you're now down a few million at the end of the year because 15,000-20,000 fans won't bother showing up anymore. Nice job. Speaking of which, if you worked for any other industry, you'd be out on your can a long time ago. Darn shame that everyone else gets the blame for the sorry play of this team, except for you & Littman. I couldn't agree more. Jeff Littmann is the root of all problems at One Bills Drive, yet he conveniently keeps his name and picture out of the media. You're a weasel Little Jeffrey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 5, 2011 Author Share Posted December 5, 2011 The Bills are still making money. Isn't that the definition of highly successful? They're not making as much as they thought they would since the fans have decided to stay away. But yes, I'm guessing the bean counters will probably have positive operating income this year. They should send Bob Kraft a nice Chanukah card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 (edited) Im not defending the guy (or guys), but who did they get rid of this year that would have turned any of the losses into wins? As far as I know, only Hangartner and Evans were perceived "money moves". Did we cut a pass rusher or serviceable OT that I missed? Edited December 5, 2011 by DrDareustein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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