BuffaloWest Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Stevie Johnson's stock continues to drop. He has fallen behind second and third receivers in the league. He is currently ranked at #33-NO BUENO. Yes the team sucks, line, QB etc, but there are players on worse teams that rank higher. Dont sign this guy as a #1-He isnt worth $9-$10 million a year, maybe $6 Million... I like him-he just isnt a top tier guy. Great #2 though. http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/receiving/sort/receivingYards/year/2011/seasontype/2 Fred is still solid as #3 running back in league-PAY THIS GUY....Not Johnson. ALSO-Why on earth didnt the Bills sign Gronkowski-The guy is a beast, hometown kid-He would have been the face of the franchise...but we take Torrel Troup-someone nobody ever even heard of. He's a bust after one and a half season. Nice going Nix! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 This just confirms my suspicion that Ralph, Littman, and Overdorf instructed Nix and Gailey to purposely make Stevie less of a focal point in the offense so that his stats would suffer and his asking price would go down. Does anyone REALLY think Freddy is injured? I think not. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 <br />Stevie Johnson's stock continues to drop.<br />He has fallen behind second and third receivers in the league.<br />He is currently ranked at #33-NO BUENO.<br />Yes the team sucks, line, QB etc, but there are players on worse teams that rank higher.<br />Dont sign this guy as a #1-He isnt worth $9-$10 million a year, maybe $6 Million...<br />I like him-he just isnt a top tier guy. Great #2 though.<br /><br /><a href='http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/receiving/sort/receivingYards/year/2011/seasontype/2' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://espn.go.com/n...11/seasontype/2</a><br /><br /><br />Fred is still solid as #3 running back in league-PAY THIS GUY....Not Johnson.<br /><br />ALSO-Why on earth didnt the Bills sign Gronkowski-The guy is a beast, hometown kid-He would have been the face of the franchise...but we take Torrel Troup-someone nobody ever even heard of. He's a bust after one and a half season.<br />Nice going Nix!<br /> I agree with everything said. The troupe pick is getting more painful as Gronkowski gets better and better. I've all but given up on troupe. Never seen the guy do anything productive on the field. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUTE Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Stevie Johnson's stock continues to drop. He has fallen behind second and third receivers in the league. He is currently ranked at #33-NO BUENO. Yes the team sucks, line, QB etc, but there are players on worse teams that rank higher. Dont sign this guy as a #1-He isnt worth $9-$10 million a year, maybe $6 Million... I like him-he just isnt a top tier guy. Great #2 though. http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/receiving/sort/receivingYards/year/2011/seasontype/2 Fred is still solid as #3 running back in league-PAY THIS GUY....Not Johnson. ALSO-Why on earth didnt the Bills sign Gronkowski-The guy is a beast, hometown kid-He would have been the face of the franchise...but we take Torrel Troup-someone nobody ever even heard of. He's a bust after one and a half season. Nice going Nix! Everyone is a genius in hindsight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 lol see this happening: JACKSON SIGNS WITH PATRIOTS AND SUDDENLY IS A SUPERSTAR WR..... **insert sound of a lot of bills fans cursing here** Fact is the bills have no one else really who scares a team in the passing game. NO ONE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 It is disingenuous to include TE and RBs. SJ ranks #28 which makes him a low-end #1, just about where I expect to see him and just about where he should get paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Everyone is a genius in hindsight. No. There are lots of picks you cannot blame the Bills on. #1 on that list would be Mike Williams. Leodis McKelvin went where he was supposed to. I loved the James Hardy pick at the time. Even Maybin went about where he was projected. But Rob Gronkowski was the most blatantly obvious pick just sitting there, staring us in the face in the 2nd round. We could've gotten Troup in the 3rd round for Christ sake. Before his junior season when he got hurt, Gronkowski was projected as a top ten pick in the entire draft. The guy is- right now today- one of the top 20-25 players in the National Football League. It is absolutely inexcusable that he is not on our football team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EldaBillsFan Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 You pay him like a top wr because when healthy he plays like a top 10..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 This just confirms my suspicion that Ralph, Littman, and Overdorf instructed Nix and Gailey to purposely make Stevie less of a focal point in the offense so that his stats would suffer and his asking price would go down. Does anyone REALLY think Freddy is injured? I think not. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 You pay him like a top wr because when healthy he plays like a top 10..... Trust me, I want Stevie to be top 10....However, he is more top 20-30 when he is on his game...he hasn't had a 100 yard/ multi-TD performance in the same game since 2010...top ten gets that almost weekly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Stevie is so banged up they really should not have played him against Miami. He looked like an 85 year old man out there. His groin and shoulder are clearly bothering him. He couldn't reach over his head for passes that he normally would have caught. I was amazed he got up after some of the hits he took. I hope that with Aiken on the 53 man roster, they use Nelson, Aiken and Roosevelt more and protect Stevie's health for a week or two. Nelson was throwing up behind the bench in Miami, so it's no surprise that he was pretty useless on the field. I assume that whatever was wrong with Nelson will be better by this week's game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Stevie will get second tier money, same as Freddie Jackson... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 You pay him like a top wr because when healthy he plays like a top 10..... staying healthy is the key to being a top player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eme123 Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 This just confirms my suspicion that Ralph, Littman, and Overdorf instructed Nix and Gailey to purposely make Stevie less of a focal point in the offense so that his stats would suffer and his asking price would go down. Does anyone REALLY think Freddy is injured? I think not. GO BILLS!!! More great analysis from yet another Ralph is cheap nut job. He is 90. The only things he worries about is who is going to change his diaper and if he's going to wake up the next morning. Get some perspective. Anyways Stevie J was never a number 1 quality WR in my opinion. Neither was Lee Evans for that matter. The inconsistencies in both their numbers prove it. They both are taken out of games way to easy. It seems he could make a decent number 2 though. A prototypical WR w/ better size, speed, and balance would be nice as a number 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 More great analysis from yet another Ralph is cheap nut job. He is 90. The only things he worries about is who is going to change his diaper and if he's going to wake up the next morning. Get some perspective. Anyways Stevie J was never a number 1 quality WR in my opinion. Neither was Lee Evans for that matter. The inconsistencies in both their numbers prove it. They both are taken out of games way to easy. It seems he could make a decent number 2 though. A prototypical WR w/ better size, speed, and balance would be nice as a number 1. Sarcasm. Try it sometime. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 What is the hold up i signing both Stevie and Fred Jackson? Can you imagine what this team would be like without them? Or worse yet, how they would look on the Pats*? Because you know if they become free agents, Bill Belichek will sign both of them in a heart beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty Shu Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Who cares if Stevie stays or goes? He is easily replaced with some other schlub with a big mouth and bad hands. Let me name some number ones and then we'll put Stevies name next to them: Calvin Johnson Larry Fitzgerald Andre Johnson Anquan Boldin Steve Johnson One of these things is not like the other....one of these things does not belong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Who cares if Stevie stays or goes? He is easily replaced with some other schlub with a big mouth and bad hands. Let me name some number ones and then we'll put Stevies name next to them: Calvin Johnson Larry Fitzgerald Andre Johnson Anquan Boldin Steve Johnson One of these things is not like the other....one of these things does not belong Excellent post and I totally agree. A little cruel, though. I don't want to disrespect Stevie, I think he is very good and has been playing hurt. But he is just not in the same class as the other names on your list. The other guys are big, mean, fast, and will fight for every ball. That kind of talent doesn't come along very often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 (edited) Stevie Johnson's stock continues to drop. He has fallen behind second and third receivers in the league. He is currently ranked at #33-NO BUENO. Yes the team sucks, line, QB etc, but there are players on worse teams that rank higher. Dont sign this guy as a #1-He isnt worth $9-$10 million a year, maybe $6 Million... I like him-he just isnt a top tier guy. Great #2 though. http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/receiving/sort/receivingYards/year/2011/seasontype/2 Fred is still solid as #3 running back in league-PAY THIS GUY....Not Johnson. ALSO-Why on earth didnt the Bills sign Gronkowski-The guy is a beast, hometown kid-He would have been the face of the franchise...but we take Torrel Troup-someone nobody ever even heard of. He's a bust after one and a half season. Nice going Nix! As much as I would LOVE to take another shot at the Lee Evans haters/Stevie Johnson supporters I can't. Stevie is good talent. We need to keep him. We don't need to pay him $10 million a year but we need to keep talent not let it walk. That's how bad teams get better. Ever wonder why we have RARELY ever had more than one good WR on the team at the same time? As soon as the #2 starts to become a contributor we run the #1 out of town. For some idiotic reason Bills fans are always running a starter out of town in favor of their pet players. I was in favor of keeping Marshawn AND Freddie. Instead....we spend the #9 overall pick in last years draft on ANOTHER rb. See how that works? You can't use your high draft picks to improve areas of weakness if you keep turning areas of strength into weaknesses by trading or releasing good players. Keep the good ones! Replace the bad ones! Pretty freaking simple but for some reason the idiots who have been running the show for the last 10 - 15 years don't get it. Edited November 23, 2011 by PDaDdy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 No. There are lots of picks you cannot blame the Bills on. #1 on that list would be Mike Williams. Leodis McKelvin went where he was supposed to. I loved the James Hardy pick at the time. Even Maybin went about where he was projected. But Rob Gronkowski was the most blatantly obvious pick just sitting there, staring us in the face in the 2nd round. We could've gotten Troup in the 3rd round for Christ sake. Before his junior season when he got hurt, Gronkowski was projected as a top ten pick in the entire draft. The guy is- right now today- one of the top 20-25 players in the National Football League. It is absolutely inexcusable that he is not on our football team. But don't forget that Rob is who he is today because they also have the best QB in the league. After all you need to have some one throw the ball accurately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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