PromoTheRobot Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 only 21 "called" running plays. As for the gusting winds, wouldn't that make a 25-yard pass a bit risky? It could explain why the two passes were short. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Ask me on Monday what we should've done. I'm always right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Called habing a so so QB under center Vader and on 3rd and 18 just asking for him screw it up. They could've passed on 2nd & 12. What everyone is missing is that when it was tied 13-13 in the 4th quarter, the Cowboys played very conservatively in the red zone and settled for a FG. They did a shovel pass on 3rd and goal from the 8 despite the fact that the Pats had single coverage on Des Bryant. Jerry Jones was just as upset about that. That's the sort of playcalling that one can accurately call "playing not to lose." That was a strange call. Definitely played it safe. I've said on another thread last night, Dallas played not to win on that final drive. Correct! And it cost them the game. Playing it safe sets you up to lose, and thats what happened to the Cowboys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 (edited) This is crazy. In other threads people are saying our defense getting turnovers against NE and not yesterday was a reason to be less aggressive vs the Giants. Others here are saying Brady being better than Eli was a reason to be less aggressive yesterday. And yet others are saying the Dallas game yesterday was different because they had the lead and were on their own side of the field (somehow a turnover is less costly in your own territory up 3 - that's a new one). I mean seriously. Just get the charade over with and say this: "It wasn't the exact same situation. I have no clue why circumstances in this game dictated a more conservative approach, but it just did". You throw in the cowboy situation to keep Brady off the field just like the bills took a knee before they kicked the FG to win. I hate to break it to you Patsfan, Brady is great and all, but taking the knee for essentially a PAT as the clock expires is still optimal if the opposing QB is JP Losman. Edited October 17, 2011 by BuffOrange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizell Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 (edited) i was screaming for them to do a play action pass on that second to last drive.. the pats had brandon spikes charging hard into the middle of the line every play. Edited October 17, 2011 by bizell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I hate to break it to you Patsfan, Brady is great and all, but taking the knee for essentially a PAT as the clock expires is still optimal if the opposing QB is JP Losman. You ask ANY HC they tell you differently. They punch it int and trust the D stop an inferior QB.. But you have a Brady,Manning, or a Rogers you take the knee and kick the FG. ALWAYS about who your opponent is. (Mind u with a JP Loseman the game been a blow out anyways so lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Point very well made, PTR. I still hated the call. I never said I was logical. Rockpile, you're a respected poster around here (at least by those who have been around awhile), but Gailey's call on that fatal pick late was for a play that was there. I'd much rather take that shot than not. Stevie had single coverage and had his man beat. A good throw and it's a likely 6..... the flaw was that Fitz threw up a turd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 (Mind u with a JP Loseman the game been a blow out anyways so lol) Actually Losman wouldn't have finished the game because Wilfork would have blown out his knee with a dirty hit. "so lol" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 You ask ANY HC they tell you differently. They punch it int and trust the D stop an inferior QB.. But you have a Brady,Manning, or a Rogers you take the knee and kick the FG. ALWAYS about who your opponent is. (Mind u with a JP Loseman the game been a blow out anyways so lol) Not sure which part of "clock expiring" and "PAT distance" you don't understand; though I trust HCs always agree with you as supported by your 2nd guessing two of them today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Not sure which part of "clock expiring" and "PAT distance" you don't understand; though I trust HCs always agree with you as supported by your 2nd guessing two of them today. 2nd guessing??? find one post where I thought Gailey made the wrong call? All I said ever was there is a BIG difference in play calling when your playing a future HOF like Brady and a lesser QB like Eli Manning. As for the Cowboys, maybe 2nd down they should thrown it 9Vader had a point) but 3rd and 18 your asking for a mistake so was the right call.. So find someone else who was calling the plays wrong, but better luck next time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 If we had done what the Cowboys did, run the ball and kick a FG, the game goes to OT. What's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Or if we had thrown the ball to a wide open receiver we could have scored a TD, and it would have been a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdBlueNorth Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I thought the same thing PTR... I have to say that my knee-jerk reaction was to get upset with Chan for calling the pass down there, but that is the way this team has played all year and it is the reason they are so good in the red zone - because they don't go into a conservative, predictable shell. I think that route to Stevie was a fairly safe play if it wasn't so horrendously underthrown. He had the single coverage he wanted and the separation he needed, Fitz just did not put enough juice in his throw. If he had actually lead Stevie we would all be talking about the win and what our defense needs to do to get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Beeeews Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I don't blame Garrett at all for attempting to run the ball. NE's defense is terrible vs. the run and their DBs, as bad as that defense is, is very opportunistic in taking the ball away via interceptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Wow, so the guys on Monday Night Countdown- Mike Ditka, Chris Carter, Boomer...They're all saying that obviously the Cowboys don't know how to play NE. But Carter made the point that they don't know how to play late games, because you don't run the ball and put it in your D's hands in today's NFL, you go aggressive and throw the ball to put the game out of reach. Gee...Why can't anyone else see this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills-fan in arizona Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 I actually thought the play call was excellent, it was the crappy throw that upset me. I like Fitz, but he needs to make those throws in those situations to be a top tier QB in this league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 I see all the comments about how the Bills should have run the ball more at the end. The Cowboys must read TBD because that's exactly what they did with 4 minutes left and a 3 point lead. No brainer, right? Football 101, right? How did that work out? PTR The Bills were facing the Giants not Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Umm not hurt your point but Eli Manning IS NOT anywhere near the same caliber QB as Brady. You throw in the cowboy situation to keep Brady off the field just like the bills took a knee before they kicked the FG to win. With Eli you MAKE him beat you, I doubt few thought Brady wasnt going to at least get a FG w the amount time left if not the TD. Love this post! Tell me again which QB came from behind to beat the other one with a minute to play in the Super Bowl? Bwhahahahaha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muffmonster Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 At the end of a game I don't care who the opposing QB is, do what you can to keep them off the field. It is clear our offense is more reliable and clucth. All our D has done is give up huge tracks of land to the likes of Campbell and Dalton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Bottom line is, Gailey obviously understands about running the clock down and kicking a FG. Re-watch the end of the Pats game if you don't believe me. He knows Fitz is not an accurate passer better than we do. He also was well aware of the wind affecting the pass as well as any FG attempt. He made what he believed was the call that gave his team the best chance of winning. It didn't work out this time. If Fitz throws it better the Bills win and more threads appear proclaiming Gailey an offensive genius. Such is life at TBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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