26CornerBlitz Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 http://blogs.nfl.com/?p=83848&preview=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 No surprises there.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Most of the teams that are well below the cap are recent history bottom feeders like the Bills, Bucs, Jags, Browns, Bungles, and Broncos. But you also see a couple teams like the Chiefs and the Bears that are also well under the cap. And Washington, also a recent bottom feeder, with average space to the cap. So while you can see a trend between success and spending, it doesn't always ring true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 (edited) Not a great time to be a dol-phan. Miami's only $4-mil under the cap and they still suck. Bills-wise, I'd like to see Buddy spend some of our $26-mil in cap space on the right side of the OL. Edited August 16, 2011 by Green Lightning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Does anybody know how much of a cap hit the Bills will take for waiving Maybin, if any? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stl Bills Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Spending spree next year! Honestly I don't think it was a bad idea to kind of sit back this year and kind of see how the new "market for players" panned out after the CBA. Now that things have been established it should make things more clear cut for FA next offseason. At least we have to spend to the salary cap floor next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Rob Johnson Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Does anybody know how much of a cap hit the Bills will take for waiving Maybin, if any? WGR was reporting $9M during their sports updates yesterday. I wonder if that is included in the $26M figure or if it is now $17M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Spending spree next year! Honestly I don't think it was a bad idea to kind of sit back this year and kind of see how the new "market for players" panned out after the CBA. Now that things have been established it should make things more clear cut for FA next offseason. At least we have to spend to the salary cap floor next year. Wrong. There is no cap "floor" this year or next.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stl Bills Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Wrong. There is no cap "floor" this year or next.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 (edited) Most of the teams that are well below the cap are recent history bottom feeders like the Bills, Bucs, Jags, Browns, Bungles, and Broncos. But you also see a couple teams like the Chiefs and the Bears that are also well under the cap. And Washington, also a recent bottom feeder, with average space to the cap. So while you can see a trend between success and spending, it doesn't always ring true. The old correlation vs causation argument. What some people don't seem to realize is that although there is not 100% causation that low spending ALWAYS yields a bad team the correlation that if you don't spend your money AND spend it wisely you will more than likely have a bad team is VERY VERY valid. Edited August 16, 2011 by PDaDdy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityCheck Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 It will be interesting to see what that cap # is after we extend KW and Stevie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 WGR was reporting $9M during their sports updates yesterday. I wonder if that is included in the $26M figure or if it is now $17M. Under the old 2006 CBA, some of the previously pro-rated signing bonus money paid to both Evans and Maybin would have been "accelerated" (when Evans was traded and when Maybin was cut) and applied against the Bills' 2011 salary cap. But it turns out the new 2011 CBA has a provision that delays the impact of any "accelerated" cap hit until the 2012 season. Not entirely certain, but this may be why the Bills were previously reported as being roughly $23 million under the 2011 salary cap, but an even greater amount under the cap now. The remainder of the pro-rated signing bonus money, previously being amortized against the cap over multiple years for both players, will apparently now count against the Bills' 2012 salary cap. http://www.bizoffootball.com/docs/Article%2011%202011%20Transition%20Rules-1.pdf Article 11 [Transition Rules For The 2011 League Year], at section 5(f): "Acceleration. For Preexisting Contracts and Player Contracts entered into after July 25, 2011 and before the end of the 2011 League Year, any required signing bonus acceleration after the effective date of this Agreement and before the end of the 2011 League Year shall be charged to Team Salary for the 2012 League Year." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggieScooby Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 We have enough money to trade Spiller or Freddie Jackson to Tennessee and pay Chris Johnson like Brady or Manning 18.5 million and still have a 10 million surplus! I am not advocating this, just pointing out a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 (edited) Maybin: 8/21/2009: Signed a five-year, $17.6 million contract. The deal contains $15 million guaranteed, including a $7.087 million signing bonus. Another $7.4 million is available through incentives based on playing time and sacks (WHICH HE NEVER REACHED). 2011: $757,500, 2012: $1.12 million, 2013: $1.4825 million, 2014: $1.5 million (Voidable Year), 2015: Free Agent. based on this he had a $3.52 mil cap hit per year. he played/used 2 years. this year and two more will have to be eaten. Edited August 16, 2011 by papazoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 The link below has a pro-Patriots bias, but it raises an interesting question. It concerns which teams benefited from a 2011 CBA provision that supposedly eliminates "dead money" from applying against the salary cap, but ONLY for players cut during a three week period just before the NFL lock-out started. I'm not vouching for its accuracy, but thought it was an interesting read. If it has the facts right, (1) the Jets will NEVER have to count $8 million they actually paid to certain players against the Jets' salary cap, and (2) the Bills may also get some benefit, but to a much lesser extent - - I don't know if cutting Pierre Woods, Mike Balogun and Marcus Stroud would have created much "dead money" to be counted against the 2011 cap in the absence of the rule the Pats fan is complaining about. http://atp.patsfans.com/2011/07/26/dead-cap-money-clause-jets-conspiracy-or-innocent-oversight/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Maybin: 8/21/2009: Signed a five-year, $17.6 million contract. The deal contains $15 million guaranteed, including a $7.087 million signing bonus. Another $7.4 million is available through incentives based on playing time and sacks (WHICH HE NEVER REACHED). 2011: $757,500, 2012: $1.12 million, 2013: $1.4825 million, 2014: $1.5 million (Voidable Year), 2015: Free Agent. based on this he had a $3.52 mil cap hit per year. he played/used 2 years. this year and two more will have to be eaten. you only eat what's left of the amortized bonus not the salary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 http://blogs.nfl.com/?p=83848&preview=true With only the Rams over the cap, the league as a whole has a long way to go to meet that 99% of cap mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 We should sign Max Starks. (unless someone else already has him). We need to get depth in the O-line, and that depth should have a high level of playing experience like Max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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