John from Riverside Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 That was Peppers and Ijonde (sp) that Bell and Pears were going against in the limited action the offense saw Sat night....thier DEs are the strength of their team and lets face it......the Bears WERE a playoff team last year. I think we should give them a little bit of credit because they both did a pretty darn good job. Fitz had time to run the offense.....it was actually our interior guys that let us down if anybody as CJ should have scored on that final offensive posession. Urbik I really hope gets it together and becomes a run mauling force......I was behind him but right now he def looks like the weak link.....he should have OBLITERATD the MLB so Spiller could score....it was the difference between 3 and 7 because it would have left the whole middle of the field open and in space Spiller is uncatchable. Based on what Pears did I think we need better depth then Wang, Wrotto, Howard but I wouldnt want to replace him and Bell did a fine job. The bills know what they are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Pears got beat bad by Melton on one play... but Demetrius more than held his own in the Bell-Peppers matchup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 I thought Wang did good too. The couple of plays were he obviously missed blocks I feel were due to inexperience. But in the end, it is the first preseason game. EVERYONE has a lot to learn, and a lot of rust to knock off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Perhaps if there was a noticeable difference between the 1st string and the backups, I'd feel better about handing out props to the O line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 15, 2011 Author Share Posted August 15, 2011 I just have heard the starting OT's take a lot of grief up until Saturday.... - I understand it about Pears because he was kind of a unknown as he came in to the team late last year....and was really undersized for a Right Tackle....but the fact is he was a former starter and it looks like he really dedicated himself in the offeason add that 20 pounds. - But Bell has been slammed and I feel unrightly so....we supposidly have the worst left tackle in the league (that is not true) yet he keeps going out and winning these matchups against the known pass rush beasts of the league just like he did last year. People were taking the fact that Merriman was abusing him in practice as a sign of what was going to come....well....guess what a healthy lights out is gonna be doing this to everyone. And of course someone will come into the thread and say a. It was only 2 series or b. Its just preseason a. You can only evaluate players players on actual games played b. In the beginning of the year defense has advantage over offense This is not to say our depth is not a serious issue....it is.....its scary bad....but THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH OUR OFFENSIVE TACKLES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Merriman, people still had doubts about him until Bell got tweaked and Shawne got to work against Wang. That was the point where people started hyping him as being 100% back. The truth is somewhere between. Lights Out should be a force against everyone except elite LT's... and against those he should still be a concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 15, 2011 Author Share Posted August 15, 2011 Well doesnt Denver have a elite Left Tackle? We will see soon enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meark Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 I thought Urbik looked particularly lost.. all of the other starters seemed to hold their own pretty well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 15, 2011 Author Share Posted August 15, 2011 Perhaps if there was a noticeable difference between the 1st string and the backups, I'd feel better about handing out props to the O line There was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 I thought Urbik looked particularly lost.. all of the other starters seemed to hold their own pretty well. Because he got beat on 1 play and got his block shaded by urlacher on another? I watched every play he was in on 10 times in slow mo, he played just fine. Pears did not. Levitre, wood and bell all played well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 15, 2011 Author Share Posted August 15, 2011 Because he got beat on 1 play and got his block shaded by urlacher on another? I watched every play he was in on 10 times in slow mo, he played just fine. Pears did not. Levitre, wood and bell all played well. Could you expand on where Pears did not play well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsintaiwan Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Bell was really only abused once last year (by jared allen), otherwise he went from a bit less than average to above average. with a healthy offseason, i expect him to be more like average to occasionally dominant this year. He did fine against the bears. Pears might get get it eventually. he's better than wrotto or howard, which isn't saying a great deal. he was okay against the bears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 this is a process, they get the d line straightened out this year, move back to O line next year. it will be awhile before this team is really competitive again. and by then they will be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defend Greece Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 I thought Wang did good too. The couple of plays were he obviously missed blocks I feel were due to inexperience. But in the end, it is the first preseason game. EVERYONE has a lot to learn, and a lot of rust to knock off. Wang was going up against the only bigger dlineman bust than maybin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defend Greece Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Could you expand on where Pears did not play well? I thought he did good but Melton did get Jim once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 I re-watched the first half and saw 4 plays where the O-line made a play-killing mistake. 1. Urbik's whiff on the run play. 2. Wang Bull rushed 3 and 4. Two whiffs by Wrotto. There were a couple of plays that looked bad on first sight, but weren't. 1. A broken screen play, where Thigpen ended up running left. 2. A decent pocket, but Thigpen either thought he saw daylight or it was a designed QB draw, because he took off straight up the middle, without hesitation. Other than that, Fitz' second and last drive should've ended with a TD. CJ might have scored if he continued across the field instead of darting up field (though a better downfield block by Urbik on Urlacher also would've at least got the first down). The drive was really killed by Jones' PI, but they still got the FG. Thigpen/Smith engineered a scoring drive that was also nullified by a penalty. The O-line wasn't as bad as some suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 "The O-line wasn't as bad as some suggest." Now there's a ringing endorsement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieG Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 meh, the only time Fitz came close to using 3 seconds to throw the ball was the Donald Jones throw. He still had to step up in the pocket to do that. If that's it, prepare for a bunch of 5 yard passes and a bunch of FG's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 meh, the only time Fitz came close to using 3 seconds to throw the ball was the Donald Jones throw. He still had to step up in the pocket to do that. If that's it, prepare for a bunch of 5 yard passes and a bunch of FG's. Thanks for pointing this out. People seem to be spinning up the PR machine for the offensive line when I think it is quite possible that the play calling and Fitz getting rid of the ball quickly are likely more responsible for the positives we saw. The starting line played a few series. Let's see how things hold up during the course of a few regular season games where the defenses are going all out and aren't playing it vanilla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Wang was going up against the only bigger dlineman bust than maybin No way is Gholston a bigger bust than Maybin. He's actually made plays and started games. I think you must have momentarily forgoten just how big of a bust Maybin is. I don't blame you - it really is hard to comprehend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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