grammer_police Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Not really in any particular order... 1. The Shaggs - Philosophy of the World 2. The Beach Boys - Smile (bootlegs) 3. The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper 4. Frank Zappa - We're Only In It for the Money 5. The Beach Boys - Today 6. The Velvet Underground - 1st album 7. Captain Beefheart - Trout Mask Replica 8. Love - Forever Changes 9. The Monks - Black Monk Time 10. 13th Floor Elevators - Easter Everywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan72 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 (edited) Weren't the Shaggs daughters of the record producer and none of them could actually sing a lick? Edited June 27, 2011 by billsfan72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Not really in any particular order... 1. The Shaggs - Philosophy of the World 2. The Beach Boys - Smile (bootlegs) 3. The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper 4. Frank Zappa - We're Only In It for the Money 5. The Beach Boys - Today 6. The Velvet Underground - 1st album 7. Captain Beefheart - Trout Mask Replica 8. Love - Forever Changes 9. The Monks - Black Monk Time 10. 13th Floor Elevators - Easter Everywhere Not bad. I would choose Freak Out by Zappa over WOIIFTM. No Dylan? Good call with Velvet Underground and Captain Beefheart. My list off the top of my head- Captain Beefheart-Trout Mask Replica Astral Weeks-Van Morrison Velvet Underground-Nico Dylan-Blonde on Blonde Are You Experienced-Jimi Kick Out the Jams- MC5 Nick Drake- 5 Leaves Zeppelin II Dylan-Highway 61 and a tie between obvious choices-The Doors, Sgt Peppers, Pet Sounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Are you experienced or axis bold as love..either one works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 any list of top 60s albums without the Rolling Stones' "Let it Bleed," is bogus. and let's not forget the seminal, ground-breaking and angry: "Johnny Cash at Folsom Prison." j (music snob) w. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 (edited) Are you experienced or axis bold as love..either one works for me. agreed. Any or all- but Jimi must be on that list! any list of top 60s albums without the Rolling Stones' "Let it Bleed," is bogus. and let's not forget the seminal, ground-breaking and angry: "Johnny Cash at Folsom Prison." j (music snob) w. Let it Bleed I strongly considered. Folsom is definitely a landmark album. What would be your other 8? I know I am missing some obvious ones. And Miles, Monk, Coltrane were putting out some legendary albums. These lists are always so hard to compile- it is tough to limit to 10- or a 100 for that matter Edited June 27, 2011 by Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 agreed. Any or all- but Jimi must be on that list! Let it Bleed I strongly considered. Folsom is definitely a landmark album. What would be your other 8? I know I am missing some obvious ones. And Miles, Monk, Coltrane were putting out some legendary albums. These lists are always so hard to compile- it is tough to limit to 10- or a 100 for that matter i dunno, you're generally on the right track with Zepplin II and Beach Boys. i'd take The Doors out of the last-place tie, because as we move on in years, they become less and less relevant in my opinion (the Ollie Stone movie just about sealed that: ugh!) the Beatles have to be there as well as the Velvet Underground, only because the NYC scene must be represented. the list requires a balance of music that can still be echoed today (which is why The Doors are essentially out in my book, unless, of course you're a tea party fan ... double-ugh, and they're from my hometown. embarrassing.) but you're right it's tough. "Let it Bleed" and "Folsom" would be on my list, though. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 Gotta start with the 2 Dylan's: Highway 61 Revisited Blonde On Blonde Then the 3 Stones: Aftermath Beggars Banquet Let It Bleed Then the 5 Beatles: Rubber Soul Revolver Sgt. Pepper's LHCB White Album Abbey Road Oops, that's 10 there, no room for anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowgirlsFan Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 Gotta start with the 2 Dylan's: Highway 61 Revisited Blonde On Blonde Then the 3 Stones: Aftermath Beggars Banquet Let It Bleed Then the 5 Beatles: Rubber Soul Revolver Sgt. Pepper's LHCB White Album Abbey Road Oops, that's 10 there, no room for anyone else. I liked Revolver too!! Any album of the Four Seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 Gotta start with the 2 Dylan's: Highway 61 Revisited Blonde On Blonde Then the 3 Stones: Aftermath Beggars Banquet Let It Bleed Then the 5 Beatles: Rubber Soul Revolver Sgt. Pepper's LHCB White Album Abbey Road Oops, that's 10 there, no room for anyone else. how about your top 25 Rico? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 Weren't the Shaggs daughters of the record producer and none of them could actually sing a lick? Record producers daughters? No. They grew up about 30 miles from where I am. The Shaggs wiki The story of the Shaggs on Broadway. Judging from the trailer they "tweaked" the Shaggs' music a little. The real stuff ain't exactly music theater material. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 i thought i was pretty knowledgeable when it came to music, but I can honestly say, The Shaggs as a band do not ring a bell at all...i suppose I have heard a song of theirs, but for a band that is being considered a major contributor for a musical decade, I feel somewhat embarrased... Record producers daughters? No. They grew up about 30 miles from where I am. The Shaggs wiki The story of the Shaggs on Broadway. Judging from the trailer they "tweaked" the Shaggs' music a little. The real stuff ain't exactly music theater material. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 how about your top 25 Rico? I could add a lot more more Dylan, Stones, & Beatles but I won't. I will still stand by my top 10 though. Let's see on my Ipod.. today's 11 thru 25 are. JB at the Apollo Dusty In Memphis Are You Experienced Axis:Bold As Love Electric Ladyland Face To Face Village Green P.S. LZ LZ II Piper At The Gates Of Dawn Otis Live in Europe Astral Weeks Who Sell Out Tommy Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere I would also find a spot for 1969 Velvet Underground Live, but that didn't come out until mid-70's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrojanitor Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Not really in any particular order... 1. The Shaggs - Philosophy of the World 2. The Beach Boys - Smile (bootlegs) 3. The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper 4. Frank Zappa - We're Only In It for the Money 5. The Beach Boys - Today 6. The Velvet Underground - 1st album 7. Captain Beefheart - Trout Mask Replica 8. Love - Forever Changes 9. The Monks - Black Monk Time 10. 13th Floor Elevators - Easter Everywhere the only thing I am not 100% on is Zappa and both Beach Boys. I'd add Beach Boys Pet Sounds or Party and something by the Hollies, Godz, Gene Clark, Byrds, Millennium or Del Shannon. Maybe Rubber Soul instead of Sgt Pepper. BUT Forever Changes, Trout Mask, Monks, Shaggs and Elevators? Spot. On. I'll add my top ten...in no particular order: Godz: 2 Beatles: Rubber Soul Del Shannon: Home and Away Beach Boys: Party! Love: Forever Changes Paul Revere and the Raiders: Revolution Velvet Underground: ...and Nico Captain Beefheart: Trout Mask Replica Gene Clark: With The Gosdin Brothers Zombies: Odyssey and Oracle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Wow, this is a tough one...I couldn't cull it down to 10...so I didn't repeat any artists (sorry to the Stones "Beggar's Banquet", Beatles "Revolver", Dylan's "Higway '61") and I still couldn't weed it down to just 10...lots of good choices by you all (props for the 13th Floor Elevators and Gene Clark/Gosdin picks! And am I the only person alive who HATES the Beach Boys!) Part of the reason, IMO, it is so hard to choose from the 60's, half the decade (maybe a little more) was chalked with some of the greatest singles of all time...and then there was a move toward whole albums...I kind of grew up on 45's, so I am very partial to things like the Ronettes, and lots of country stuff from that time...but often, those pop albums consisted of 5 great A-side singles, and then 7 tracks of filler...had to leave of Donovan, because his best album was a greatest hits..."Season of the Witch" and "Sunshine Superman" are kick ass singles, but his albums, on the whole, are pretty lightweight... Here goes my "top 10" or so: Beatles "Rubber Soul" The Byrds "Sweethearts of the Rodeo Ray Charles and Betty Carter Leonard Cohen "Songs Of Leonard Cohen" Sam Cooke "Night Beat" Dr John "Gris-Gris" Bob Dylan "Bringing It All Back Home" Fred Neal "Fred Neal" (re-issued as "Everybody's Talkin'") Rodriguez "Cold Fact" Rolling Stones "Let It Bleed" The Ronettes "Presenting the Fabulous..." Velvet Underground featuring Nico (is there any album as influential?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el Tigre Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Sly and the Family Stone's Stand needs to be on that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 No Cream? Yard birds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 No Cream? Yard birds? I thought about the Jeff Beck Group, first album with Rod Stewart and Ron Wood... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 I thought about the Jeff Beck Group, first album with Rod Stewart and Ron Wood... They had a album? All I remember of them is "Becks Bolaro". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 They had a album? All I remember of them is "Becks Bolaro". Yes, there was "Truth", and "Beckola"... "Truth" came out in 1968...great album...Stewart and Wood left to join the Small Faces, hijacking them from Steve Marriot, turning them into the Faces...would highly recommend "Truth". "Beckola" is good too, but not as good. Stand out track: "Morning Dew" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb6WRqZRG-E&playnext=1&list=PLF9F70DA46D1B40E1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Yes, there was "Truth", and "Beckola"... "Truth" came out in 1968...great album...Stewart and Wood left to join the Small Faces, hijacking them from Steve Marriot, turning them into the Faces...would highly recommend "Truth". "Beckola" is good too, but not as good. Stand out track: "Morning Dew" youtube.com/watch?v=zb6WRqZRG-E&playnext=1&list=PLF9F70DA46D1B40E1 Honestly I don't like Stewart-the phase "lounge lizard" always comes to mind- it's like he was always a Vegas act in the making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Honestly I don't like Stewart-the phase "lounge lizard" always comes to mind- it's like he was always a Vegas act in the making. I can think of few people in music who have betrayed their talent as much as Rod Stewart. I must say, though, I love the Faces stuff, as well as his solo albums (essentially Faces albums) up through about 1976. I think he sounds great on the Beck stuff. Listen to that (youtube) track I posted, and just forget it is him...its' a great song...great performance. Ironically, I think he and Beck were made for each-other. I think they are both technically, very talented, but creativity, and artistry seems to evade them, at times. Beck has done some hideous stuff over the years...but I really liked that "Live at Ronnie Scott's" record he put out a couple of years ago. Rod hasn't done anything good in about 30 years... About a year ago, Ian McLagen came into the record shop I work at. He lives here in town. I was asking him about the rumored Faces reunion. He said, "yes we are going to do it...in some form or another...Ronnie and Kenny are up for it...I am up for it...not sure about Rod though. He said he still has nearly a century of music to murder" It was pretty funny...he was referencing those "Songbook" things Stewart has been doing the last 7 or 8 years...it is amazing how many people buy that **** up. So, anyways, the Faces reunion has happened, they are playing Europe this summer, with Mick Hucknell (from Simply Red) playing the part of Rod Stewart. Stewart has an "open invitation" to join them any time he wants...they got sick of waiting for him. It seems ludicrous for Hucknell to be singing with them, but the reviews I have read said he sounds great with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grammer_police Posted June 29, 2011 Author Share Posted June 29, 2011 Weren't the Shaggs daughters of the record producer and none of them could actually sing a lick? The Shaggs My Pal Foot Foot I'm not sure that their Father was a record producer..but he played a very big role in their career. He was almost like a Murry Wilson (Beach Boy's Father) in that he was a tyrant who forced the band to play, but also had some good intentions Not bad. I would choose Freak Out by Zappa over WOIIFTM. No Dylan? Good call with Velvet Underground and Captain Beefheart. My list off the top of my head- Captain Beefheart-Trout Mask Replica Astral Weeks-Van Morrison Velvet Underground-Nico Dylan-Blonde on Blonde Are You Experienced-Jimi Kick Out the Jams- MC5 Nick Drake- 5 Leaves Zeppelin II Dylan-Highway 61 and a tie between obvious choices-The Doors, Sgt Peppers, Pet Sounds Yeah, leaving off Dyan was tough. I'm actually a Dylan freak believe it or not, but just enjoy the 10 records I listed better than they stuff he did in the 60's. Here's my list for Dylan: 1. Blood on the Tracks 2. Highway 3. Blonde on Blonde 4. John Wesley Harding 5. Another Side 6. Desire 7. Bringing it all Back Home 8. Planet Waves 9. the other folk albums 10. everything else prior to the 80's work any list of top 60s albums without the Rolling Stones' "Let it Bleed," is bogus. and let's not forget the seminal, ground-breaking and angry: "Johnny Cash at Folsom Prison." j (music snob) w. Of course "Let it Bleed" is a classic...but IMO it's not as good as: Begger's, Sticky, Aftermath, and especially Exile (70's yes, but in my mind the best album of all time) i thought i was pretty knowledgeable when it came to music, but I can honestly say, The Shaggs as a band do not ring a bell at all...i suppose I have heard a song of theirs, but for a band that is being considered a major contributor for a musical decade, I feel somewhat embarrased... The Shaggs are the best kept secret in music. (Jonathan Richman being the other). Some people would say that they can't play their instruments...and in some ways that's correct...but they actually play very exact - every note is planned and has meaning - and it's like they learned in almost complete isolation from the rest of the western world. The reason I love their music so much is because it's the most pure form of Rock n' Roll honest passion that I have yet heard. Song's like "Who Are Parents" just can't be duplicated in my mind. Give 'em a shot, but be prepared for it to take several listens before "getting it". They are about as challenging as "Trout Mask Replica". BTW...Zappa said that they were better than the Beatles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Of course "Let it Bleed" is a classic...but IMO it's not as good as: Begger's, Sticky, Aftermath, and especially Exile (70's yes, but in my mind the best album of all time) Exile on Main Street ranks on my list as well as one of the best albums of all time. it has influenced essentially everything good and pure and dirty in music that has followed it right up to this day. but, it's a 70s album and this is a 60s list. however, Let it Bleed was a wonderful precursor, and featured "Country Honk," which has always had a soft spot in my heart. Sticky Fingers was also a 70s album, which i found to be good, but inconsistent. jw jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 i thought i was pretty knowledgeable when it came to music, but I can honestly say, The Shaggs as a band do not ring a bell at all...i suppose I have heard a song of theirs, but for a band that is being considered a major contributor for a musical decade, I feel somewhat embarrased... Don't feel bad. The Shaggs fame is entirely based on how obscure they were...and their total lack of musical ability. I doubt they received any real airplay anywhere ever. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 (edited) Don't feel bad. The Shaggs fame is entirely based on how obscure they were...and their total lack of musical ability. I doubt they received any real airplay anywhere ever. PTR I just listened to The Shaggs' most famous "song", My Pal Foot Foot. Somehow I got all the way through. The damn thing was an affront to my ears, and to claim that the "music" was somehow valuable to the rock narrative is insulting to those of us who actually take time to learn our instruments. And to the poster above who enjoys the music and finds it evocative...more power to you. I realize that musical taste is subjective. But when you attempt a Top 10 list, that implies a certain level of objectivity. Teenage girls who don't know how to play musical instruments or write songs can't top any list. I'm sorry. Edited June 29, 2011 by SageAgainstTheMachine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 This list begins and ends at Led Zeppelin II. Anything else, and you have an agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 I just listened to The Shaggs' most famous "song", My Pal Foot Foot. Somehow I got all the way through. The damn thing was an affront to my ears, and to claim that the "music" was somehow valuable to the rock narrative is insulting to those of us who actually take time to learn our instruments. And to the poster above who enjoys the music and finds it evocative...more power to you. I realize that musical taste is subjective. But when you attempt a Top 10 list, that implies a certain level of objectivity. Teenage girls who don't know how to play musical instruments or write songs can't top any list. I'm sorry. I think the "value" of the Shaggs is they are an example of rock-n-roll made without any influence, or talent. Kind of like finding a tribe in the Amazon and making them play rock without ever letting them hear any. Putting the Shaggs on that list is either a big joke or some critic trying to go over everyone's heads. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 This list begins and ends at Led Zeppelin II. Anything else, and you have an agenda. sheesh, at least i acknowledged i was a snob. some of us at least have expanded tastes and not limited to one album. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 This list begins and ends at Led Zeppelin II. Anything else, and you have an agenda. IMO, it's certainly Top 10 '60's. My agenda: Sgt. Pepper & Abbey Road rewrote the 'how-to's'. Pepper for studio, muti-track; Road for integrating a full album side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grammer_police Posted June 30, 2011 Author Share Posted June 30, 2011 I think the "value" of the Shaggs is they are an example of rock-n-roll made without any influence, or talent. Kind of like finding a tribe in the Amazon and making them play rock without ever letting them hear any. Putting the Shaggs on that list is either a big joke or some critic trying to go over everyone's heads. PTR I assure you it's no joke. I love "My Pal Foot Foot" (superficially about a cat named "Foot Foot" who has ran away), but it's probably not the best song to start with them, even while it's the most popular. It's probably the most outwardly "childish" of their songs, but still has the classic velvet undergroundish slang to it. They are so challenging because you need to let go of any previous influence you have in Rock music and just accept them. Then, strong patterns start to arise, both in their lyrics and musicianship. And they sing about deep feelings that are weaved throughout their very linear playing. They were the one of the first bands to be so "honest"(not caring about what other think) that it's not a surprise that they are sometimes lumped in with the "proto-punks". But I know it's not for everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 (edited) Rodriguez "Cold Fact" Who?Never heard of this, but I'm downloading from Usenet now. That was pretty good, I will save it. Reminds me of Syd in spots, a little of Cohen, obviously a little of Dylan, yet still pretty unique. Definitely a relic of the 60's, nothing wrong with that though. My fav was Only Good For Conversations, catchy refrain: "but you're the coldest B word I know" Edited June 30, 2011 by Rico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 (edited) I can think of few people in music who have betrayed their talent as much as Rod Stewart. I must say, though, I love the Faces stuff, as well as his solo albums (essentially Faces albums) up through about 1976. I think he sounds great on the Beck stuff. Listen to that (youtube) track I posted, and just forget it is him...its' a great song...great performance. Ironically, I think he and Beck were made for each-other. I think they are both technically, very talented, but creativity, and artistry seems to evade them, at times. Beck has done some hideous stuff over the years...but I really liked that "Live at Ronnie Scott's" record he put out a couple of years ago. Rod hasn't done anything good in about 30 years... About a year ago, Ian McLagen came into the record shop I work at. He lives here in town. I was asking him about the rumored Faces reunion. He said, "yes we are going to do it...in some form or another...Ronnie and Kenny are up for it...I am up for it...not sure about Rod though. He said he still has nearly a century of music to murder" It was pretty funny...he was referencing those "Songbook" things Stewart has been doing the last 7 or 8 years...it is amazing how many people buy that **** up. So, anyways, the Faces reunion has happened, they are playing Europe this summer, with Mick Hucknell (from Simply Red) playing the part of Rod Stewart. Stewart has an "open invitation" to join them any time he wants...they got sick of waiting for him. It seems ludicrous for Hucknell to be singing with them, but the reviews I have read said he sounds great with them. Damn you for mentioning Rod Steward and faces!! I knew they had a song I loved but it took me all day to think of it Edited June 30, 2011 by Jim in Anchorage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Who? Never heard of this, but I'm downloading from Usenet now. That was pretty good, I will save it. Reminds me of Syd in spots, a little of Cohen, obviously a little of Dylan, yet still pretty unique. Definitely a relic of the 60's, nothing wrong with that though. My fav was Only Good For Conversations, catchy refrain: "but you're the coldest B word I know" As I mentioned earlier, I always loved Donovan's singles ("Sunshine Superman", "Season Of the Witch", etc) but his albums blow...Rodriguez kind of reminds me of him, but with much better songs...one cool thing about the modern age of music, there are so many lost gems like this album that are being unearthed...glad you liked it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Tate Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Years from now, long after we're gone, future music snobs will look through our history to find out what kind of music we listened to, looking to get some sense of us. What kind of people were we? What was our day-to-day like? What was the greatest music during our lifetime? And when they look, they're going to find the number one hit single of 1969: Sugar, Sugar by The Archies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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