Bangarang Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 (edited) QBs prepped more in this era. McElroy 43, Gabbert 42, Ponder 35, Stanzi 30, Dalton 29, Mallett 26, Newton 21, Locker 20. What does it mean?about 1 hour ago via TweetDeck Mallett did better than a lot of people gave him credit for. Ponder did well. He's still my guy with our 2nd round pick. Edited March 17, 2011 by Bangarang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 (edited) Mallett did better than a lot of people gave him credit for. Ponder did well. He's still my guy with our 2nd round pick. So did Newton. I'm thinking he'll go 1 now. Edited March 17, 2011 by tgreg99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Can anyone find out how Kaepernick did? GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted March 17, 2011 Author Share Posted March 17, 2011 So did Newton. I'm thinking he'll go 1 now. I'm hoping he goes #1. Are we that lucky though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 So did Newton. I'm thinking he'll go 1 now. Is 21 a good score for a QB? I thought QBs should score in the high 20s at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfaninvgs Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Anyone notice how well Gabbert did....... Not saying he is the pick or that I want him to be. Just saying he scored pretty high..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumblinstumblin Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 The wonderlic is overrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Is 21 a good score for a QB? I thought QBs should score in the high 20s at least. When some on this board (and in the media) were expecting him to be in the low teens or even single digits like Young, then yes, it is. Gabbert's score was phenomenal. Considering McElroy's score was almost perfect, Gabbert looks pretty brainy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 (edited) So did Newton. I'm thinking he'll go 1 now. I think any team that would move a guy up or down based on a Wonderlic score has very poor player evaluation. Years ago I used to look at all the Wonderlic scores & I came to the conclusion that there are too many other variables these days that make the score virtually meaningless. In the late 1990s the Jets drafted a tackle in the 1st round with a small Wonderlic score. I remember being at Shea stadium talking about him with a Jets fan & the guy said that the player blew off the test and had graduated with over a 3 gpa. It turned out he had a good NFL career. McNabb & Marino scored in the teens. Remember JP going from the teens to the 30s between his 1st & 2nd attempt? Agents coach these guys up & there's no way I'd upgrade a guy based on an acceptable Wonderlic. A team is much better off looking at tapes of the guy on the field, live workouts and then interviewing the guy in person. An interview with the guy & how he answers football & career related questions says a lot more than a Wonderlic score. About the only value Wonderlics have these days are that we can laugh at the really dumb guys who score in the single digits. Edited March 17, 2011 by Albany,n.y. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 (edited) I think any team that would move a guy up or down based on a Wonderlic score has very poor player evaluation. Years ago I used to look at all the Wonderlic scores & I came to the conclusion that there are too many other variables these days that make the score virtually meaningless. Remember JP going from the teens to the 30s between his 1st & 2nd attempt? Agents coach these guys up & there's no way I'd upgrade a guy based on an acceptable Wonderlic. A team is much better off looking at tapes of the guy on the field, live workouts and then interviewing the guy in person. An interview with the guy & how he answers football & career related questions says a lot more than a Wonderlic score. About the only value Wonderlics have these days are that we can laugh at the really dumb guys who score in the single digits. Sorry, let me clarify. I don't think the Wonderlic makes or breaks anyone. But for the fans that aren't sitting in these interviews and doing background checks (ugh), it's one of our windows into the process. A QB who scores a 9 on a Wonderlic probably isn't giving the most compelling interviews and thus probably isn't thought of as highly as someone who scores in the 40s. At least that's the assumption I'm making. It's all a guess though. No one but the people doing the work really know how highly a guy is thought of. But I'd assume with his physical talent and a decent Wonderlic, Cam is probably doing pretty well during the interviews (breaking down football stuff) and thus is probably a legit possibility for Carolina. Edited March 17, 2011 by tgreg99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Cam's score means he has the ability to learn the complexities of a playbook, read complex defenses and process that into action. It means if he dedicates himself tot he game he has the ability to succeed from a mental standpoint. It also means those who believe that a black QB is not able grasp the complexities of the NFL game are what they are, racists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EldaBillsFan Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 whats a poor score, average score and a great score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 (edited) whats a poor score, average score and a great score? Perfect score is 50. McElroy and Gabbart both had very good scores. No prospect listed had a "poor" score which would be single digits. Anything in the 20s or more is decent. http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/wonderlic-scores-of-2010-nfl-starting-quarterbacks-and-339905.html Other Wonderlic scores of note: Brian Griese 39 Drew Bledsoe 36 Steve Young 33 John Elway 29 Chad Pennington 25 JaMarcus Russell 24 Mark Brunell 22 Trent Dilfer 22 Michael Vick 20 Daunte Culpepper 18 Dan Marino 15 Randall Cunningham 15 Jim Kelly 15 Terry Bradshaw 15 Edited March 17, 2011 by DrDankenstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
symbiant Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 This pretty much guarantees that Gabbert will not fall past Carolina, Buffalo AND Arizona. And this kind of means we won't be selecting Cam Newton at 3. I seem to recall Nix liking high Wonderlic scores for early QB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. ChumChums Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Perfect score is 50. McElroy and Gabbart both had very good scores. No prospect listed had a "poor" score which would be single digits. Anything in the 20s or more is decent. http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/wonderlic-scores-of-2010-nfl-starting-quarterbacks-and-339905.html Also worth noting is that our very own Ryan Fitzpatrick owns the record for any active player (48) - tied with Ben Watson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 This pretty much guarantees that Gabbert will not fall past Carolina, Buffalo AND Arizona. And this kind of means we won't be selecting Cam Newton at 3. I seem to recall Nix liking high Wonderlic scores for early QB's. I think based on 21 being much higher than people thought he could do, most folks would agree this keeps Cam in the running for an early pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
symbiant Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 I think based on 21 being much higher than people thought he could do, most folks would agree this keeps Cam in the running for an early pick. I'm betting we pass. Just my opinion. Maybe our standards are different, but with all that extra preparation and attention, I don't think 21 is a great score for a #3 overall pick QB. I think Newton falls to 5-10 now. And I don't think you can compare scores from Marino/Kelly's era... that was so long ago. That's like comparing SAT scores from the 1990's to the inflated scores nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 I'm betting we pass. Just my opinion. Maybe our standards are different, but with all that extra preparation and attention, I don't think 21 is a great score for a #3 overall pick QB. I think Newton falls to 5-10 now. And I don't think you can compare scores from Marino/Kelly's era... that was so long ago.That's like comparing SAT scores from the 1990's to the inflated scores nowadays. Of course you don't think comparisons can be made, they go against your argument. Anyone notice how well Gabbert did....... Not saying he is the pick or that I want him to be. Just saying he scored pretty high..... IIRC his pro day is today so we should be getting plenty of Gabbert news later in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 So did Newton. I'm thinking he'll go 1 now. Agreed. This should alleviate all those Vince Young comparisons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Props to Newton.....he did way better than i thought he would......still hope we don't pick him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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