metzelaars_lives Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 That's it, I don't have much else to say. I feel like the logic behind this is self-explanatory. The scrap heap crew of castaway linebackers we have isn't getting us anywhere (obviously). Just throw the guy out there and whatever happens, happens. I already don't care if they win or not, wouldn't it be nice to see Maybin get a few sacks and maybe get you psyched about penciling him in as a starter next year? I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy in 4C Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 That's it, I don't have much else to say. I feel like the logic behind this is self-explanatory. The scrap heap crew of castaway linebackers we have isn't getting us anywhere (obviously). Just throw the guy out there and whatever happens, happens. I already don't care if they win or not, wouldn't it be nice to see Maybin get a few sacks and maybe get you psyched about penciling him in as a starter next year? I don't know. Look, I get what you are saying, but the Bills have the worst linebackers in all of football and maybe in team history and Maybin isn't even good enough to play mop-up duty. If he hasn't earned it, he should ride the bench. That's how it should work - no free passes because you're a first rounder. He is an average special teams player at best. Everyone should just forget his name because he will be gone in 1-2 years if not sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaPolian8693 Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Time to face the facts and just accept the reality that Maybin is a bust and will never contribute to this time. The longer you cling to this notion that he might magically get good, the longer you will feel frustrated by him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien K Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Agree. Thought the same of Ellis but they just released him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 I already don't care if they win or not, wouldn't it be nice to see Maybin get a few sacks and maybe get you psyched about penciling him in as a starter next year? I don't know. Maybi, maybinot. Actually probably not. He has not done anything that got psyched other that throwing a clothesline move on a guy that was already going down and then watch him act the fool. I saw enough of him yesterday too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted October 11, 2010 Author Share Posted October 11, 2010 Listen, I think the Bills suck every bit as much as you, BUT I will say that Maybin would only be a senior this year if he stayed in college. Could he be worse than the Leon Joes we currently have playing? Maybe so and maybe not. It couldn't possibly hurt to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flopagamo Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 You gotta earn your way onto the field, and Maybin hasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 I saw enough of him yesterday too Wait a minute. Did he even play??? Unfortunately, I have to agree with you. It seems they've cut his already limited playing time, which, on a team with absolutely no pass rush, isn't exactly a good thing for his career prospects. I think they may well have given up on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Defensive Ryan Leaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 (edited) Defensive Ryan Leaf Not really. Its just an extremely difficult transition to make these days. Recent draft history is littered with first and second round pass rush type DE prospects that were complete flops and the bust rate may well be higher than any other position. Needless to say, I'd avoid 4-3 type DEs like the plague in R1 if I were an NFL GM. Edited October 11, 2010 by Brandon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDD Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Listen, I think the Bills suck every bit as much as you, BUT I will say that Maybin would only be a senior this year if he stayed in college. Could he be worse than the Leon Joes we currently have playing? Maybe so and maybe not. It couldn't possibly hurt to find out. Haven't you seen maybin get pushed around like a rag doll when he's been on the field? This team is embarassing. It would become pitiful if maybin was inserted into the starting lineup. Case closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 This is the time to *trade* Maybin, not play him. The more PT he gets, the more he shows how bad he is. He's still young enough and inexperienced enough that someone can talk himself into thinking that he can turn Maybin around. Every snap Maybin plays lowers his price. It's not like this is unprecedented. The Bucs drafted Gaines Adams #4 overall in 2007, and traded for a 2nd-round pick in 2009. Now, Adams actually had some production (12.5 sacks combined in first 2 years, made All-Rookie Team), so we wouldn't be getting anything like a #2, but the point is that we could still get something instead of cutting Maybin for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Listen, I think the Bills suck every bit as much as you, BUT I will say that Maybin would only be a senior this year if he stayed in college. Could he be worse than the Leon Joes we currently have playing? Maybe so and maybe not. It couldn't possibly hurt to find out. I've had similar thoughts about Maybin. If the Bills were playing a typical 3-4 I can see the value in putting him out on the field. The LB's are the weakest link of this defense. Outside of Poz (who constantly misreads or takes a couple steps the wrong way) making some tackles 8 yards down field I really didn't notice any of the other's doing anything notable especially in pass coverage where they appear to run around aimlessly in the secondary (they remind me of the movie Stripes when Bill Murray's company is wandering out of the woods at the obstacle course!). IMO, he came out of college too soon but listened to his advisors (Arington, etc.) about going for the big money and then had the balls to hold and and then contribute zippo. That should have been a humbling learning experience but I suspect the guy's still very immature, listening to the wrong people, and the big money doesn't help keep the dude hungry for success. Physically he wasn't and still isn't capable of handling NFL caliber offensive lines as a full time player. But its inconceivable that a team that generates no pass rush and possesses no linebacker that can cover any TE or RB, cannot identify a dozen or so situations during the game where his speed and quickness would be an asset to a defense that is so dysfuntional. Knowing our luck, I can see the Bills giving up on the guy while he physically and mentally matures and gets picked up by a team that employs a sophisticated 3-4 where he somewhat excells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson from Gamehendge Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Time to face the facts and just accept the reality that Maybin is a bust and will never contribute to this time. The longer you cling to this notion that he might magically get good, the longer you will feel frustrated by him. Look at what coaching has done for guys like Elvis Dumervil and Tamba Hali, not to mention Cameron Wake. The first 2 were relatively high draft picks (Not as high as Maybin), but they were both on the rocks with their teams...and all of a sudden they came on strong, Dumervil last year and Hali this year. These guys took time to develop and put muscle/weight on. Give Maybin more than a year, I understand he should have produced more than what he has in 21 games...but give him another year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 The first 2 were relatively high draft picks (Not as high as Maybin), but they were both on the rocks with their teams...and all of a sudden they came on strong, Dumervil last year and Hali this year. These guys took time to develop and put muscle/weight on. Actually, both Dumervil and Hali stepped right in and performed well as rookies. Dumervil had 8.5 sacks and Hali had 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 (edited) Unless you think Torbor or Ayodelle are going to develop into quality starters you should absolutley play Maybin. He's got physical talent and the only way to develop skills on the field is to play. My first year in college I was an embarassment on the basketball court. After 6 months of playing I could take all you guys to the hole. Maybe he develops, if not you cut bait with no regrets. What's to lose? Edited October 11, 2010 by Rob's House Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Unless you think Torbor or Ayodelle are going to develop into quality starters you should absolutley play Maybin. He's got physical talent and the only way to develop skills on the field is to play. My first year in college I was an embarassment on the court. After 6 months of playing I could take all you guys to the hole. Maybe he develops, if not you cut bait with no regrets. What's to lose? Agree with you, but he needs to focus on trying to be an 3-4 OLB. Right now our defense system has little stability and the D is also playing horribly. Coaches need to give up using him as a down lineman, keep him in space and committed to OLB in a 3-4. Can't see playing him right now because how do you get into a comfort zone and learn to play in a defense like ours? Hopefully later in the season. And then every down, not just passing downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted October 11, 2010 Author Share Posted October 11, 2010 Unless you think Torbor or Ayodelle are going to develop into quality starters you should absolutley play Maybin. He's got physical talent and the only way to develop skills on the field is to play. My first year in college I was an embarassment on the basketball court. After 6 months of playing I could take all you guys to the hole. Maybe he develops, if not you cut bait with no regrets. What's to lose? Thank you. This is exactly what I'm saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 (edited) That's it, I don't have much else to say. I feel like the logic behind this is self-explanatory. The scrap heap crew of castaway linebackers we have isn't getting us anywhere (obviously). Just throw the guy out there and whatever happens, happens. I already don't care if they win or not, wouldn't it be nice to see Maybin get a few sacks and maybe get you psyched about penciling him in as a starter next year? I don't know. I agree because at this point there is nobody in front of him that is doing any better than he would. But here's my take: there is nothing Maybin can do to get on the field. I don't believe Gailey likes him in general as a player. Gailey and Nix did not draft him. They have no loyalty to him. He might be out the door after this season as part of a trade possibly. Edited October 11, 2010 by purple haze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b stein 22 Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 He would be an upgrade to Kelsey. I think the play the same position but I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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