Kelly the Dog Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 from Dolphins.com: • With Bills WR Lee Evans catching four passes for 110 yards today, it snapped the Dolphins’ string of not having allowed an individual 100-yard receiver in 21 straight games. Prior to today, the last time an opponent totaled 100 receiving yards against the Dolphins was on October 19 of last year when New England’s Troy Brown had six catches for 131 yards and a TD in a Patriots 19-13 overtime win. • With two touchdown catches today, Lee Evans became the first player to have two or more TD receptions in a game against the Dolphins since December 1, 2002 when Buffalo’s Peerless Price did it at Ralph Wilson Stadium. Nice job, Lee. You be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidey Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 from Dolphins.com:Nice job, Lee. You be good. 147611[/snapback] Yup nice to see his speed on that what looked like overthrown ball. Now with him making plays etc see better numbers for Eric rest of way. Folks have to honor his speed and he has great hands. Good Job TD for a team with no number 1s ya got Willis, Lee and JP!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Prior to today, the last time an opponent totaled 100 receiving yards against the Dolphins was on October 19 of last year when New England’s Troy Brown had six catches for 131 yards and a TD in a Patriots 19-13 overtime win. And IIRC, Brown got half of those yards on the game-winning TD catch in OT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 I love the fact that Evans is already showing some physical play as a rookie. His pushoff is already pro caliber and has gotten him several huge catches. While he's not great at it yet, he's also shown himself to be a willing blocker and will certainly get better. One of my favorite plays on the day was the effort he showed fighting through contact right before he made the one-handed snag to keep a drive alive. There's alot of pro receivers who can't finish that route or don't even try and Evans grinding like that as a rookie bodes really well for his future. Cya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gross Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 I love the fact that Evans is already showing some physical play as a rookie. His pushoff is already pro caliber 147653[/snapback] That, right there, says to me that even if Vincent is done for the season we got our money's worth out of him....remember the reports from Ceegar and Steve about seeing Vincent working Evans hard after practices to help Evans get his technique down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 6, 2004 Author Share Posted December 6, 2004 That, right there, says to me that even if Vincent is done for the season we got our money's worth out of him....remember the reports from Ceegar and Steve about seeing Vincent working Evans hard after practices to help Evans get his technique down? 147658[/snapback] Very, very good point. Not to mention that Kevin Thomas and Greer in today's paper were mentioning how important Vincent has been to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in KC Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 That, right there, says to me that even if Vincent is done for the season we got our money's worth out of him....remember the reports from Ceegar and Steve about seeing Vincent working Evans hard after practices to help Evans get his technique down? 147658[/snapback] That was a great story someone here posted (Mark VI?). That one and the Krumrie wrestling/hand-checking stories were by far my favorites from preseason.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 That, right there, says to me that even if Vincent is done for the season we got our money's worth out of him....remember the reports from Ceegar and Steve about seeing Vincent working Evans hard after practices to help Evans get his technique down? You're right Dan, I had forgotten about that. TVincent did one hell of a job because Evans has shown great technique in battling DB's when the ball is coming in. He keeps his hands low and doesn't get caught with his arms extended on the push-off, uses his feet to put himself in position to use his body to wall guys off and always seems to be able to play from a position of strength. I admit I wasn't thrilled with the pick when the Bills made it, but ever since the first Jets game this kid has really started to open my eyes. Cya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 I think Evans is the best rookie receiver we have ever had. Does anybody agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCBoston Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 I think Evans is the best rookie receiver we have ever had. Does anybody agree? 147673[/snapback] What, you didn't like Perry Tuttle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gross Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 That was a great story someone here posted (Mark VI?). That one and the Krumrie wrestling/hand-checking stories were by far my favorites from preseason.... 147664[/snapback] Yeah, sorry, I called Mark by his old nick...him posting about smoking one in celebration today threw me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKC Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Yup nice to see his speed on that what looked like overthrown ball. 147617[/snapback] I didn't read it at all that way, although I realize the TV coverage team suggested it. When they came back and showed the angle from the lower corner of the field the ball looked like it was thrown away from the DB while leaving Evans in stride. A Raider fan watching the game with me said "That's just a perfect pass". I concur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eSJayDee Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 I think Evans is the best rookie receiver we have ever had. Does anybody agree? He's good, but I've gotta think Butler was much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 He's good, but I've gotta think Butler was much better. 147793[/snapback] I agree. I really, really like Evans... but get back to me when he breaks the team single-game receiving records Butler set against the Jets during his rookie season. (10 catches-255 yards-4 TDs, two over 70 yards.) And Butler was hurt for part of that season. 'Dre was no slouch, either - Greg Bell led the team in catches in Reed's rookie year, but Reed was the top WR.... For the record: Lee Evans, 2004 (12 games): 29 catches - 554 yds, 19.1 ypc, 5 TD, 1 100-yard game Josh Reed, 2002: 37 catches - 509 yds, 13.8 ypc, 2 TD, 1 100-yard game Peerless Price, 1999: 31 catches - 393 yds, 12.7 ypc, 3 TD, 1 100-yd game Eric Moulds, 1996: 20 catches - 279 yds, 14.0 ypc, 2 TD Andre Reed, 1985: 48 catches - 637 yds, 13.3 ypc, 4 TD, 1 100-yd game Jerry Butler, 1979 (13 games): 48 catches - 834 yds, 17.4 ypc, 4 TD, 2 100-yd games Of course, Evans still has four games left this season. It wouldn't break my heart to see him make a move on Butler's numbers...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Guy on the Bench Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 I agree. I really, really like Evans... but get back to me when he breaks the team single-game receiving records Butler set against the Jets during his rookie season. (10 catches-255 yards-4 TDs, two over 70 yards.) And Butler was hurt for part of that season. 'Dre was no slouch, either - Greg Bell led the team in catches in Reed's rookie year, but Reed was the top WR.... For the record: Lee Evans, 2004 (12 games): 29 catches - 554 yds, 5 TD, 1 100-yard game Josh Reed, 2002: 37 catches - 509 yds, 2 TD, 1 100-yard game Peerless Price, 1999: 31 catches - 393 yds, 3 TD, 1 100-yd game Eric Moulds, 1996: 20 catches - 279 yds, 2 TD Andre Reed, 1985: 48 catches - 637 yds, 4 TD, 1 100-yd game Jerry Butler, 1979 (13 games): 48 catches - 834 yds, 4 TD, 2 100-yd games Of course, Evans still has four games left this season. It wouldn't break my heart to see him make a move on Butler's numbers...... 147848[/snapback] Not impossible. Five catches a game (conceivable the way he's playing) and he ends with 49, nipping Andre and Jerry. Seventy yards a game (a reach, but also conceivable, especially if he has a big 100+ one in there somewhere - Hello Cleveland and San Fran) and he's at 834, right with Jerry. I could live with that. B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 I agree. I really, really like Evans... but get back to me when he breaks the team single-game receiving records Butler set against the Jets during his rookie season. (10 catches-255 yards-4 TDs, two over 70 yards.) And Butler was hurt for part of that season. 'Dre was no slouch, either - Greg Bell led the team in catches in Reed's rookie year, but Reed was the top WR.... For the record: Lee Evans, 2004 (12 games): 29 catches - 554 yds, 5 TD, 1 100-yard game Josh Reed, 2002: 37 catches - 509 yds, 2 TD, 1 100-yard game Peerless Price, 1999: 31 catches - 393 yds, 3 TD, 1 100-yd game Eric Moulds, 1996: 20 catches - 279 yds, 2 TD Andre Reed, 1985: 48 catches - 637 yds, 4 TD, 1 100-yd game Jerry Butler, 1979 (13 games): 48 catches - 834 yds, 4 TD, 2 100-yd games Of course, Evans still has four games left this season. It wouldn't break my heart to see him make a move on Butler's numbers...... 147848[/snapback] That Butler Jets game was the first game that I attended at the Ralph. What a great game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KurtGodel77 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 When I evaluate a WR, I look at yards rather than catches. As Lofton once put it, "nobody evaluates a RB by saying, 'he had this many carries.' It's yards baby!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 anyone know the stats for YPC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 anyone know the stats for YPC? 147936[/snapback] Ask and ye shall receive. Check my post earlier in this thread; I just added them. For future reference: take the yardage and divide by the number of catches. That way, *I* won't have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 I agree. I really, really like Evans... but get back to me when he breaks the team single-game receiving records Butler set against the Jets during his rookie season. (10 catches-255 yards-4 TDs, two over 70 yards.) And Butler was hurt for part of that season. 'Dre was no slouch, either - Greg Bell led the team in catches in Reed's rookie year, but Reed was the top WR.... For the record: Lee Evans, 2004 (12 games): 29 catches - 554 yds, 19.1 ypc, 5 TD, 1 100-yard game Josh Reed, 2002: 37 catches - 509 yds, 13.8 ypc, 2 TD, 1 100-yard game Peerless Price, 1999: 31 catches - 393 yds, 12.7 ypc, 3 TD, 1 100-yd game Eric Moulds, 1996: 20 catches - 279 yds, 14.0 ypc, 2 TD Andre Reed, 1985: 48 catches - 637 yds, 13.3 ypc, 4 TD, 1 100-yd game Jerry Butler, 1979 (13 games): 48 catches - 834 yds, 17.4 ypc, 4 TD, 2 100-yd games Of course, Evans still has four games left this season. It wouldn't break my heart to see him make a move on Butler's numbers...... 147848[/snapback] Throw my vote into the Jerry Butler column, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tux of Borg Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 You're right Dan, I had forgotten about that.TVincent did one hell of a job because Evans has shown great technique in battling DB's when the ball is coming in. He keeps his hands low and doesn't get caught with his arms extended on the push-off, uses his feet to put himself in position to use his body to wall guys off and always seems to be able to play from a position of strength. I admit I wasn't thrilled with the pick when the Bills made it, but ever since the first Jets game this kid has really started to open my eyes. Cya 147669[/snapback] What can we say, TD is a sucker for guys with torn ACLs. A lot of mock drafts had Evans falling to the late 1st, early 2nd round. He tore his ACL in 2002 and didn't regain that burst of speed in 2003. TD took a risk that he was going to make a full recovery and he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 What can we say, TD is a sucker for guys with torn ACLs. A lot of mock drafts had Evans falling to the late 1st, early 2nd round. He tore his ACL in 2002 and didn't regain that burst of speed in 2003. TD took a risk that he was going to make a full recovery and he did. 147972[/snapback] Not too risky if you have a competent, top notch medical team to back up your pick(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarthur31 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 I love the fact that Evans is already showing some physical play as a rookie. His pushoff is already pro caliber and has gotten him several huge catches. While he's not great at it yet, he's also shown himself to be a willing blocker and will certainly get better. One of my favorite plays on the day was the effort he showed fighting through contact right before he made the one-handed snag to keep a drive alive. There's alot of pro receivers who can't finish that route or don't even try and Evans grinding like that as a rookie bodes really well for his future.Cya 147653[/snapback] Aiken is showing himself to be a great blocker too. Did you see what he did on that Moulds TD? I think is the only reason why Eric even made it in there. B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarthur31 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 I agree. For the record: Lee Evans, 2004 (12 games): 29 catches - 554 yds, 19.1 ypc, 5 TD, 1 100-yard game. Andre Reed, 1985: 48 catches - 637 yds, 13.3 ypc, 4 TD, 1 100-yd game. 147848[/snapback] Wow this was an eye popping comparison. One is headed to the HOF the other could be too if he keeps it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark VI Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Yeah, sorry, I called Mark by his old nick...him posting about smoking one in celebration today threw me! 147680[/snapback] Should I change back to Cigar M ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Aiken is showing himself to be a great blocker too. Did you see what he did on that Moulds TD? Yeah, I thought they were going to throw a flag at him with both his hands outside the guys' pads. But props to him for his blocking as a WR and also for the good work he is doing on the kick return unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkwwjd Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Evans' one handed catch was amazing, I thought DB way overshot him on that crossing pattern, but no, 20 yard gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundy249 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Throw my vote into the Jerry Butler column, as well. 147968[/snapback] Hmmm Evans 19.1 YPC 5 TD's Butler 17.4 YPC 4 TD's...Evans still has 1 more game until he reaches the same 13 that Jerry played. I love Butler but gotta go with Evans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gross Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Should I change back to Cigar M ? 148007[/snapback] Well, now that it appears that the Bills have caused you to unquit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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