Kosmo Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Jauron took a 5-11 team and went 7-9 his first season. His worst record as a Bills coach was 7-9 (full season) In comes Chan Gailey. A guy who thus far has proven to be everything Jauron was not. A guy that demands hard work, attention to detail, can game plan, has an offensive mind, and expects his players to win as opposed to telling them "it's hard to win in the NFL". Other than T.O., what has significantly changed for the worse? -Defense switching to 3-4 will take some time, but the idea is that it will help shore up our horrid run D from last year. At some point in the season, this switch will be a positive. -Special teams do look suspect, but we need to wait till the starting line-up is in for the regular season -Offense now has a real OC. We added Spiller. Roscoe will be more involved. The O-line is more experienced and for the time being, is healthy. They have shown signs of life thus far in the pre-season and are actually exciting to watch. How can people (fans and "analysts") predict this team to only win 3 games? I would like to think that overall our team has improved on paper from the last few years, or at least stayed the same. So the question is this: Who wins more games given the same team, Gailey coached Bills or Jauron coached Bills? I say Gailey, hands down. That’s why I say we go at least 8-8 this season and make a push for a Wild Card spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 It's our schedule. We are playing the NFC North and the AFC North. they are both powerhouse divisions. In the AFC North the Steelers, Bengals, or Ravens could be #1 in the division. In the NFC north it's either the Vikings or Packers. 4 of the 5 teams listed made the playoffs last year and are expected to do so again. This is why the so called experts believe we will be 3-13. I personally think the Bills will make the playoffs this year despite the schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Gailey = Cirque du Soliel Jauron = clown show. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poznasty51 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 It's our schedule. We are playing the NFC North and the AFC North. they are both powerhouse divisions. In the AFC North the Steelers, Bengals, or Ravens could be #1 in the division. In the NFC north it's either the Vikings or Packers. 4 of the 5 teams listed made the playoffs last year and are expected to do so again. This is why the so called experts believe we will be 3-13. I personally think the Bills will make the playoffs this year despite the schedule. I really have never bought into difficulty of schedule. For all we know, the New England defense will be weak and Sanchez and Henne will still struggle as young quaterbacks. Plus there are overhyped teams and underrated teams every year. We will just have to see it play out. Also, over the past couple of years, there have been games where if a few plays go the Bills way, they win. Hopefully with better play calling, improved offensive line play, and more consistent quarterbacking (i know, i know, there is not a whole lot of hope for this), we can have a winning record going into the last three games of the season (which happen to be divisional games). I think we will be in the mix going into that three game stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Having this coaching staff that believes in confidence instead of luck will go a long way. To DJs credit this team played hard but were often undone by holy **** a gameplan by the other team! Having a game plan makes this team SOOOOOO much better. I doubt we are super bowl caliber but it wouldnt shock me to see us win 9 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finknottle Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Other than T.O., what has significantly changed for the worse? -Defense switching to 3-4 will take some time, but the idea is that it will help shore up our horrid run D from last year. At some point in the season, this switch will be a positive. -Special teams do look suspect, but we need to wait till the starting line-up is in for the regular season -Offense now has a real OC. We added Spiller. Roscoe will be more involved. The O-line is more experienced and for the time being, is healthy. They have shown signs of life thus far in the pre-season and are actually exciting to watch. How can people (fans and "analysts") predict this team to only win 3 games? I would like to think that overall our team has improved on paper from the last few years, or at least stayed the same. So the question is this: Not to argue with your main point, but remember that nothing stands still in the NFL. Every team looks like it has stayed pat or improved from year to year, at least on paper and in preseason. But there is never a guarantee that a returning player will be as good as he was last year. Jackson, Evans, and quite a few others have another year of mileage on them, and will start losing steps eventually. And there is no reason to think we won't have the same amount of injuries to foil our plans. If the preseason is any guide, we might be on track for more! Do I think we will have a 3 win season? No. But if we have 5 or 6 my head won't explode at the implausibility of it all. Frankly, I don't think we were really a 7 win team last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West End Stench Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I really have never bought into difficulty of schedule. For all we know, the New England defense will be weak and Sanchez and Henne will still struggle as young quaterbacks. Plus there are overhyped teams and underrated teams every year. We will just have to see it play out. Also, over the past couple of years, there have been games where if a few plays go the Bills way, they win. Hopefully with better play calling, improved offensive line play, and more consistent quarterbacking (i know, i know, there is not a whole lot of hope for this), we can have a winning record going into the last three games of the season (which happen to be divisional games). I think we will be in the mix going into that three game stretch. I agree with this 100%. Also, people point to all the tough games on this year's schedule. We split with both Miami and New York last year and had N.E. beat until the very end. There's no reason we can't go 2-4 again in a decent AFC East. We're also scheduled to play the Jaguars, Chiefs, Bears, Lions and Browns. I think we can get 3-4 wins out of that group alone. The Steelers and Bengals are by no means indestructible and we might be able to steal one from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 How can people (fans and "analysts") predict this team to only win 3 games? I would like to think that overall our team has improved on paper from the last few years, or at least stayed the same. So the question is this: Who wins more games given the same team, Gailey coached Bills or Jauron coached Bills? I say Gailey, hands down. That’s why I say we go at least 8-8 this season and make a push for a Wild Card spot. There are many reasons: Many folks consider the last years fallout to be due to a horrible situation at QB and the OL (injuries, bad plays etc). Based on that the situation has not changed as the same QBs are back and the same OL are back. For non-Bills fan, that sounds like status quo and with the perceived improvement within the division (Jets piled up a # of veteran FAs, the Pats drafted 4 2nd RD picks and the Dolphins got Brandon Marshall). Hence everyone is clamoring for a 3-13 record. The second factor that plays in is that the Bills schedule is very difficult this year as compared to last season. They are playing 6 games against the AFCE, 4 against the tough AFC North (Cinci, Balt, Pit), 4 against the always-tough NFC North (GB, Vikes, Bears). Their only "easy" games appear (according to the pundits) KC, Jax and the floor mats of the AFC North and NFC North (Cleveland and Detroit). The Bills have of course shown that they can take down Miami and the Jets in the last few seasons, even when they were not favored. And it is possible that they get lucky breaks in another 2-3 games to finish with a 6-10 and 7-9 record. Of course, Chan could work his magic and make this a better offensively balanced team that can take them to a 10+ win season. I personally see the big challenge is in the defense converting from the 4-3 to the 3-4 especially considering that we have been drafting this 4-2 cover 2 smallish linemen. Our LBs are also not big enough to play this defense. May be these players will adapt to the scheme. Of course, we were 31st against the RUN, so we can only go up. I hope Gailey tough attitude changes these players like how Parcells and Sporanos changes the culture in Miami two seasons ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Preseason predictions are nothing other than entertainment. Teams that are likely to remain strong from year to year are those that have solid coaching and solid QB'ing. The Bills have had neither for a long time. While many of the Bills loyal are positive on Gailey he still has to prove his leadership through results. Until he does anyone's guess is valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasBB Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I've posted this before, but I really like the fact that Gailey was 13-3 during two regular seasons within the division while HC of the Dallas Cowboys. He understands the importance of division games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I've posted this before, but I really like the fact that Gailey was 13-3 during two regular seasons within the division while HC of the Dallas Cowboys. He understands the importance of division games. Wow really? thats an inpressive stat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Gailey = Cirque du Soliel Jauron = clown show. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteski Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 I've posted this before, but I really like the fact that Gailey was 13-3 during two regular seasons within the division while HC of the Dallas Cowboys. He understands the importance of division games. Ok. If he plays three teams in the division twice then it is 6 games. Over 2 years, it will be 12 games. I am not saying that I don't believe you, but the numbers don't add up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Ok. If he plays three teams in the division twice then it is 6 games. Over 2 years, it will be 12 games. I am not saying that I don't believe you, but the numbers don't add up. What's 4 games between friends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiLou Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 (edited) 2009 jauron 3-5 fewell 3-5 lets see, jauron and fewell had the same players (minus 15 for fewell on IR), same assistants, same fans, same stadium, not the same weather, and they had the same record. that tells us that jauron was just as good as an untested head coach with absolutely no head coaching experience. what a terrible head coach he was. oh so terribly horribly bad. the "experts" are fooled into thinking that Chan Gailey will win only the same amount of games as interim HC Fewell did in a half of last season. LOL Edited September 2, 2010 by milehiLou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonprophet Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Ok. If he plays three teams in the division twice then it is 6 games. Over 2 years, it will be 12 games. I am not saying that I don't believe you, but the numbers don't add up. Forget it, he's rolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiLou Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 (edited) Ok. If he plays three teams in the division twice then it is 6 games. Over 2 years, it will be 12 games. I am not saying that I don't believe you, but the numbers don't add up. there used to be five teams in each division. Remember when the colts were in the east too? (til 2002) Edited September 2, 2010 by milehiLou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Ok. If he plays three teams in the division twice then it is 6 games. Over 2 years, it will be 12 games. I am not saying that I don't believe you, but the numbers don't add up. Gailey coached the Cowboys in the late 90s when the cards were still in the NFC East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasBB Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Gailey coached the Cowboys in the late 90s when the cards were still in the NFC East. Thank you. You beat me to it. Yes, it was a 5-team division when Gailey coached the Cowboys. The 13-3 divisional record is accurate. there used to be five teams in each division. Remember when the colts were in the east too? (til 2002) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastRochBillsfan Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Gailey = Cirque du Soliel Jauron = clown show. PTR Nice analogy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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