Chef Jim Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Radio fades into the background within a light-year. TV even quicker. That's ok, I don't watch our TV, you think I'm going to watch theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Doc, You're not much of an optimist are you? Lest you forget, we are a species that landed on the moon a mere 66 years after the Wright Brother's took to the air for the first time. 66 years!!! From a paper and wooden plane to sophisticated rockets and space travel. Technological advances are exponential. In fact, technology is advancing so quickly that it's difficult to keep up. Just look at the last 50 years and what's been developed and how quickly it's changed the world. From the internet to the iPad -- things are only going to continue to advance at an even quicker rate. In another 50 years there will be new tech that will make the iPad look like a dinosaur. There's absolutely no doubt that technology WILL keep advancing to a point where interstellar travel is not only possible, but common. Your point about whether or not the human race will survive long enough to reach that point is a far more valid and compelling argument. Because yes, there's a chance we kill ourselves or this planet long before we reach that. But, to say that it's impossible for humans to develop the capabilities to travel across vast distances is just plain false and shows a complete ignorance of how far we've come as a species in a very, very short period of time. Well, the rub is that none of us will ever see interstellar travel in our lifetimes, so we will never know. And the chances the human race dies out before we achieve it are very high. So no, I'm not an optimist in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Well, the rub is that none of us will ever see interstellar travel in our lifetimes, so we will never know. And the chances the human race dies out before we achieve it are very high. So no, I'm not an optimist in that regard. Probably true, but who knows, we argued you down from millions of light years to one. IIRC there are 40-50 stars within 10-15 light-years btw (the closest like 4+). Want to bet they have focused on them? Mind you, I doubt many of these are habitable, but who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Time travel requiring the end point to be same as the start point. Time is relative. How would one know that they time-traveled if they went elsewhere? The theory of time travel is just that. It should be fun, since you demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of general relativity in the above... Sorry Tom, I wouldn't be foolish enough to claim I understood it. Not that general relativity explains everything in the universe (it doesn't). But I'm always open to hearing new theories on how one would travel at, much less faster, than the SOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Probably true, but who knows, we argued you down from millions of light years to one. IIRC there are 40-50 stars within 10-15 light-years btw (the closest like 4+). Want to bet they have focused on them? Mind you, I doubt many of these are habitable, but who knows? Again, when you're talking light-years, it's still a hell of a long way away. And you bring up a good point: who knows if they're inhabitable? We'd need to develop the tech to figure that out first before sending ships and people there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Time is relative. How would one know that they time-traveled if they went elsewhere? The theory of time travel is just that. Nicely mathematical. Sorry Tom, I wouldn't be foolish enough to claim I understood it. Obviously. Otherwise you wouldn't be making statements like "and wish to get there in some human lifespan timeframe(s), you'd need to find a way to travel MUCH faster than the SOL." Because, as you said (but clearly don't understand), time is relative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 I'm always open to hearing new theories on how one would travel at, much less faster, than the SOL. Wormhole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodBye Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Okay, how bout you, me, and Lana take a trip to Gillilands Ranch? http://www.ahealedplanet.net/ufo.htm I'll do the driving. Been wanting to take the new car on a road trip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 I'll do the driving. Been wanting to take the new car on a road trip! New car! I thought you were still driving that late model Corolla that has a zillion years on it... You know what the eco/carbon-footprint is on that (new car) bad boy?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsRUs Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 No ****, buckwheat. It's an old board meme, ya !@#$tard. Guess the fail is on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cugalabanza Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 I have a solution to all these problems with travelling through space & time. If you want to visit alien civilizations, all you have to do is imagineer it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Guess the fail is on me. Meazza once asked (one of his first posts) "Does sound travel faster than light in space?" I of course gave him the only correct answer to that question: "You're an idiot." I still give him **** for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Guess the fail is on me. Never EVER admit to a mistake around here. What you need to do instead is call the person who has pointed out the error of your ways a bunch of mean names with lots of @#%^*)s involved. Then bluster LOUDLY and carry on as if nothing had happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Next step in the progression of engineering. Really, how are you going engineer a high-speed, long-distance space ship when you can't even manage the technology to control a fusion reaction? Simple! You just have a drunken dude working out of an abandoned missile silo have futuristic space travelers travel back in time to stop a pre-emptive cyborg invasion and then fly it out dodging phaser beams and photon torpedos until you initiate contact with pointy-eared space Buddhists! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Well, we have 53 years until the Vulcans show up. Or the Vogons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Never EVER admit to a mistake around here. What you need to do instead is call the person who has pointed out the error of your ways a bunch of mean names with lots of @#%^*)s involved. Then bluster LOUDLY and carry on as if nothing had happened. Or use the big cat I was just being sarcastic angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsRUs Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Lawl... its all good...I don't mind apologizing if I'm wrong. I really see no point in hiding behind an egoistical internet avatar / post count rep. Doesn't add much to the convo. ......which is prob why the aliens will pick me to teach the secrets of the universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cugalabanza Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Lawl... its all good...I don't mind apologizing if I'm wrong. I really see no point in hiding behind an egoistical internet avatar / post count rep. Doesn't add much to the convo. Don't worry. You have exactly the same amount of credibility here as you have ever had, or ever will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Lawl... its all good...I don't mind apologizing if I'm wrong. I really see no point in hiding behind an egoistical internet avatar / post count rep. Doesn't add much to the convo. ......which is prob why the aliens will pick me to probe for the secrets of the universe. more better now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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