BillsGuyInMalta Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 DE seems like the last thing we need... next to DB that is.. If Clausen and the top tackles are gone they should trade down.. I'd much rather see them grab an offensive play maker.. We need offense!! I dont think Morgan would play DE for us, he'd line up at OLB (which is something we do need) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 Allow me to clarify. It's not necessarily what I would do, but rather what I think the Bills would do under this scenario. I haven't written off Maybin, not by a mile. I just happen to think that no 3-4 team has enough rush LBs, especially a team without a single proven player at that position. A rush LB makes more sense to me than an ILB like McClain when you consider that we already have Posluszny, Mitchell, and Davis in the fold. I'd also rather have Spiller, but I don't think this group cares what I think. Thanks for the kudos though. Ahhh Gotcha.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 I'll add that by all accounts Morgan has a great work ethic and character, and no real flaws in his game. Bottom line, if you think he compares favorably to Justin Tuck, you take the player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 That was my 1st reaction, but the new staff needs to ignore the Maybin selection and evaluate what they have for their 3-4 defense. Right now you have a bunch of players penciled in at positions they haven't played. If Schobel retires, you have Kelsay, Ellis, Maybin (and Ellison?) as outside LBs and Edwards (only one to play a 3-4), S.Johnson and Stroud as DEs. Morgan wouldn't be my preference but I'd understand it. I agree they need to focus on offense, for which they've only added C.Green, Chad Jackson and 2 no-name RBs. The thing is, though, the only FA signings of note have been front seven guys on defense. They haven't done anything on offense - the inferior unit by far - except drop a good player (Owens) and pick up a barely mediocre player (Green). Plus they've been publicly lukewarm about their QBs and the RB they drafted very highly three years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DE Bills Fan Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 This team is terrible and needs help at a plethora of positions. I say take the best player available at a position of need of which there are many (QB, WR, OT, NT, DE, OLB). The Bills needs stars of which they have precious few. Who ever is hightest rated at those positions should be the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisonbrigade Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 BARF!! If that happens I'll watch PBS shows this fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meark Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 once again, what if Schobel retires? Address the need when/if the time comes... We have plenty of rounds to get a DE or we can make a trade after the draft.. We need to address the offense first round. We have 3 other DE's on the roster.. and only 1 possible LT that honestly isn't ready to be a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertpaul49 Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 Honestly, I would be upset if they draft a player totally on need. I have no problem with the team drafting defense in the first round in the offensive player is not available. Spiller will be there, but they have drafted a lot of running backs in the first round, and how has that worked out for the team. Really, they should reach for a player who likely a bust for something they view as a need? This is exactly what they did with Maybin last year!!!! How did that work out? You know that they know what they are getting with Morgan in the first round. Plus, we know from the Super Bowl that the team needs pass rushers. They can get an offensive tackle in the second. There are a lot of offensive tackles that are available, but there are also a lot of team that need offensive tackles and there are a lot of offensive tackles who have big time bust potential, Cambell, Davis, even Bulaga. What this team needs is another bust at offensive tackle with a top ten pick, hooray!!!! I will be very excited if they draft Morgan, Dan Williams, etc, because we will know that they are drafting the best player available instead of reaching for a need position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meark Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 I dont think Morgan would play DE for us, he'd line up at OLB (which is something we do need) Not sure why? We have 8 LB's on the roster.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawchukBills Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 I would love Staffold to drop to us in the 2nd round. Wouldn't be mad at the Morgan pick at 9 but would rather see Dan Williams... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrid Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 I would love Staffold to drop to us in the 2nd round. Wouldn't be mad at the Morgan pick at 9 but would rather see Dan Williams... yeah, I'd like to see us pick up Saffold if we dont get OT in 1st rnd. sounds like he might be the best OT in rnd 2, other than maybe A Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philo Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 Good work bandit! I agree with your assessment of the Bills picks, as you can see by my signature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidas Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 I like it. Don't know much about Roger Saffold though. And it still leaves us with a dearth of talent at NT. Do we go after a Clifton Ryan from St. Louis, or *gasp* Hollis Thomas from...who the hell knows where he is now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ 'Em Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 BARF!! If that happens I'll watch PBS shows this fall. If they trade for Jason Campbell I will be right next to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidas Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 Here's a question for you, Bandit (and everyone else): out of all the positions we need (OT, NT, QB, OLB), which positions are deep in this draft and which are not? That could weigh into the decision of who to pick first more than anything. There seems to be some depth at OT (Brown, Saffold), NT (Thomas, Joseph), and QB (Lefevour, Pike) meaning we can get talent outside of that first pick (so trading down, while ideal, would not be necessary). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 This doesn't inspire confidence regarding Morgan: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/nfl-draft...ducing-sackseer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 Good job, but I can't seem them picking a DE after picking one last year. I really can't. They also have PR issues they have to worry about. Moreover, this team has had a terrible offense for, like, ever (or seemingly so). They simply have to do something about it ASAFP. Really? I can definitely imagine it, because both of those guys will be OLBs in the 3 - 4, and we don't have any experienced OLBs. Considering that - except for NT - freaky-athletic OLBs are the key to the 3 - 4, I think it's reasonable. I personally wouldn't pick Morgan, but I definitely think he's one of 4 or 5 guys who would be in the mix if Clausen and the top 3 LTs are gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 I'd bet the proverbial farm that it'll be offense. This is a team with bad OTs, one decent WR, two average running backs, and no QB. Yup. And NO pro-level NT, only one possible OLB in my opinion, completely inexperienced DEs and a defense that is completely in flux. Yeah, the offense is in desperate need and has huge holes. Same with the defense because of the switch to the 3 - 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 Not sure why? We have 8 LB's on the roster.. Bills LBs on the roster: Jon Corto (too small for the 3 - 4 OLB except maybe for the ROLB, and has never been anything but depth and STs) Andra Davis (has experience inside in the 3 - 4, and is a solid guy, but won't set the division on fire) Chris Ellis (has never played LB as a pro) Keith Ellison (too small for the 3 - 4 LOLB and not athletic enough to be the rush specialist ROLB. Essentially a backup) Nic Harris (too small for the 3 - 4 LOLB and not athletic enough to be the rush specialist ROLB. Essentially a backup) Chris Kelsay (LOLB? No experience in the 3 - 4) Aaron Maybin (ROLB? No experience in the 3 - 4) Kawika Mitchell (ILB. Starter? Or backup for Davis and Poz?) Paul Posluszny (ILB) Bryan Scott (actually a safety. Has no 3 - 4 experience at LB. Basically a backup) Where are our competent OLBs? We haven't got a single one with any experience. Not a single one who's proven in the 3 - 4, and many of them are just too small or at best career backups. The ROLB can be a smaller guy but he must be the most athletic guy on the team. He's your Joey Porter, your DeMarcus Ware, your Lawrence Taylor. Corto, Ellison and Harris aren't going to be that guy. This is the second-most important position in a 3 - 4 scheme and right now we have one sort of reasonable possibility for the position, Maybin. Talk about unproven ... Sure we have lots of LBs, but does that mean we are OK there? Not even close. We already have 3 QBs too, so we must be OK there too, hunh? We have 5 tackles by my count, so we must be OK at LT too. Having bodies on the roster doesn't mean we don't need people there. Hell, right now, we have enough guys at every single position. Maybe we shouldn't bother drafting, because we already have enough guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 This doesn't inspire confidence regarding Morgan: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/nfl-draft...ducing-sackseer Just me, but I don't think that's bad at all. As he noted in the story, high sackseers were only somewhat predictive, while low sackseers were extremely predictive. Being the second-highest in the class is pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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