Coach Tuesday Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?page=NextLevel2 Goes against everything I've ever heard, but interesting nonetheless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortured Soul Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 It totally ignores the passing side of the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 16, 2010 Author Share Posted April 16, 2010 It totally ignores the passing side of the offense. It does. I guess the theory is that a strong running game takes the pressure off of the passing game, but you're right, it's a one-sided argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 It totally ignores the passing side of the offense. And ignores that no RB can run without some blocking. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasNootz Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 And ignores that no RB can run without some blocking. PTR Barry Sanders did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 3 rbs picked in the top 10 over the last 25 years have won Super Bowls: Reggie Bush (who was mainly a decoy), Jamal Lewis (who played on one of the greatest defensive teams ever and on an offense that didn't score a td for a month), and Marshall Faulk (who was traded before he won one). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 16, 2010 Author Share Posted April 16, 2010 3 rbs picked in the top 10 over the last 25 years have won Super Bowls: Reggie Bush (who was mainly a decoy), Jamal Lewis (who played on one of the greatest defensive teams ever and on an offense that didn't score a td for a month), and Marshall Faulk (who was traded before he won one). THAT is what you think is the meaningful measurable for a first round pick? Superbowl wins?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 THAT is what you think is the meaningful measurable for a first round pick? Superbowl wins?? It proves the point that if you build your team around a high profile running back, you aren't going to win a Super Bowl. Isn't that the goal of building a team? And drafting a rb in the top 10 is even more follish when you already have 2 1,000 yard rushers on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasNootz Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 Jerome Bettis also won a Superbowl and was picked 10th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasNootz Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 It proves the point that if you build your team around a high profile running back, you aren't going to win a Super Bowl. Isn't that the goal of building a team? And drafting a rb in the top 10 is even more follish when you already have 2 1,000 yard rushers on the roster. How many QBs drafted in the top 10 in that same period won superbowls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 The common denominator is that all the teams that were used as examples had average or below average quarterbacks for the years cited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasNootz Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 The common denominator is that all the teams that were used as examples had average or below average quarterbacks for the years cited. Or that teams that have picks in the top 10, take longer to rebuild than the the average NFL career for a first rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 I guess my point is that if you have a less than great passing game, of course you'll try to run the ball more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 16, 2010 Author Share Posted April 16, 2010 It proves the point that if you build your team around a high profile running back, you aren't going to win a Super Bowl. Isn't that the goal of building a team? And drafting a rb in the top 10 is even more follish when you already have 2 1,000 yard rushers on the roster. It absolutely does NOT prove that point. In fact, you've just posited a complete logical fallacy. And Reggie Bush just won a Super Bowl, so there's your "black swan." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 It proves the point that if you build your team around a high profile running back, you aren't going to win a Super Bowl. Isn't that the goal of building a team? And drafting a rb in the top 10 is even more follish when you already have 2 1,000 yard rushers on the roster. You conveniently forgot to include the entire first round. That leaves out Emmitt Smith, Jerome Bettis, Corey Dillon, Joseph Addai, and OJ Anderson. Also, Walter Payton, a 4th overall pick, won a SB ring 25 years ago. Finally, Jamal Lewis was the most productive offensive player on the field in the Ravens-Giants Super Bowl, and rushed for over 1300 yards that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 Barry Sanders did. Sure did. How many games did the Lions win? PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 Sure did. How many games did the Lions win? PTR Since you asked, they consistently fielded a winner in his heyday. They made the playoffs five times in seven seasons from 1991-1997. They haven't made the playoffs since he retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 And ignores that no RB can run without some blocking. PTR Huh? They compared choosing a highly rated tackle with choosing a highly-rated RB. Highly-rated RB increased performance more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 How many QBs drafted in the top 10 in that same period won superbowls? 8 Super Bowls out of 25........and Big Ben was drafted 11th. If it was top 11, it would be 10 of 25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 Barry Sanders did. No he didn't. Lomas Brown, Glover, etc.... were pretty good. Just cause the media says Barry Sanders did it all himself and that Wayne Fontes is a buffoon doesn't make either true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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