truth on hold Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 and how will they pay for it?like someone said, get McNabb, increase thruway tools from Syracuse to Buffalo? is there really stimulus money for NFL stadiums? all in all, really interesting idea. there is money for state and local governments. put the stadium there with public assistance and i bet we find a consortium of investors from both sides of the border with interest in buying the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 If we don't take the money someone else will. So we might as well grab some. Getting stimulus money for a new stadium is not a bad idea at all. It should be a dome and should be closer to Toronto. Right in Niagara Falls is not a bad place for it. In fact I could see actually getting a Super Bowl if the stadium were in the Falls right at the border. You'd have the hotels and entertainment attractions right there. Instead of Canadian fans driving over, they could park in Canada and walk across the Rainbow Bridge. That would make border crossing that much easier. You could even build a covered heated walkway so it's more comfortable. PTR Exactly, keep the Canadians all nice and cozy so they spend more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Upgrade my ass - the Bills need a new stadium - possibly in Lancaster, to continue drawing fans from Canada and Rochester. RWS is a dump and a huge pain in the ass to get to if you live north or east of Buffalo. Yeah it is past time to quit putting money in that old dump. Build a new one and be done with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilbuffalobob Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 The Linc as it is called in Philly is a nice stadium. The Ralph doesn't hold a candle to it. The closest comparison I can make to the Ralph is The Meadowlands, we all know how that stadium will end up. What? Are you talking about locker rooms only? Old Giants stadium in tiny, steep & crampped. It's nothing like RWS- not even the luxury paved parking lots that make you feel guilty about when starting a bon fire. No way dude. I love the Rich Ralph (stadium). Old Giants stadium sucked ballz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Playing football in a dome in Buffalo almost makes playing football in Buffalo pointless. Some of my best memories of Bills games are in the worst weather imaginable. That weather used to be our strength, our life blood and was a MASSIVE competitive advantage. Ask the Raiders...................... 51-3 bitches! I was there and it was COOOOOOLD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Before we make plans to build a new stadium, lets see what happens after Ralph dies. A poster mentioned the stadium is a dump. A fan goes there 9 times a year for 3 hours. How much to you want to spend on that? Take a ride in the city. Virtually the whole thing is a dump. Upgrade that first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrid Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Ask the Raiders...................... 51-3 bitches! I was there and it was COOOOOOLD! Bo don't know snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Playing football in a dome in Buffalo almost makes playing football in Buffalo pointless. Some of my best memories of Bills games are in the worst weather imaginable. That weather used to be our strength, our life blood and was a MASSIVE competitive advantage. Ask the Raiders...................... 51-3 bitches! I was there and it was COOOOOOLD! has it not snowed the last 10 years? guess i missed something LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Playing football in a dome in Buffalo almost makes playing football in Buffalo pointless. Some of my best memories of Bills games are in the worst weather imaginable. That weather used to be our strength, our life blood and was a MASSIVE competitive advantage. Ask the Raiders...................... 51-3 bitches! I was there and it was COOOOOOLD! The Buffalo weather hasn't been a home-field advantage in years. I like being outside too but most people don't. And a domed venue attracts a Super Bowl, which brings in an influx of cash. Financially speaking, a domed venue is best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Playing football in a dome in Buffalo almost makes playing football in Buffalo pointless. Some of my best memories of Bills games are in the worst weather imaginable. That weather used to be our strength, our life blood and was a MASSIVE competitive advantage. Ask the Raiders...................... 51-3 bitches! I was there and it was COOOOOOLD! The Dome could have a retractable roof we could open or close. A Superbowl would bring in big $$$ and a Dome near the falls would help promote more Tourism to Niagara Falls and the surrounding area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Playing football in a dome in Buffalo almost makes playing football in Buffalo pointless. Some of my best memories of Bills games are in the worst weather imaginable. That weather used to be our strength, our life blood and was a MASSIVE competitive advantage. Ask the Raiders...................... 51-3 bitches! I was there and it was COOOOOOLD! has it not snowed the last 10 years? guess i missed something LOL Yeah. 51-3 was the last Bills team that could actually play in snow. Now we have a bunch of California pussies and free agents don't want to play in the cold. Half the NFL plays in domes now. Since the idea is to catch Buffalo up to the rest of the NFL, maybe we should act like it's not 1990 anymore. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offyourocker Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Playing football in a dome in Buffalo almost makes playing football in Buffalo pointless. Some of my best memories of Bills games are in the worst weather imaginable. That weather used to be our strength, our life blood and was a MASSIVE competitive advantage. Ask the Raiders...................... 51-3 bitches! I was there and it was COOOOOOLD! Agree 100%. My first game when I arrived in this country was Buffalo vs. Kansas city and the snow was falling hard. Best memory I have of any games. Go Bills and go Orange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 As a facility, it's nowhere near Lincoln Financial Field - I'd rank that one the best football stadium I've been to (I was sitting in clubs during a preseason game, so I was going more for the facility than the game itself). I'd say RWS is on par with Arrowhead or Lambeau. Lambeau underwent a $300 million renovation not long ago and by all accounts, it's quite nice. No resemblence to the Ralph can be imagined. Arrowhead is scheduled for a $300 mil reonvation. The Ralph is probably more like the soon to be leveled Giants Stadium. There is no "stimulus money" for sport stadiums. As for Jones--he did put up over $600 million of his own money for that stadium. The local municipality put up about $350 mil, far less than the public put up for Indy's Lucas field, for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Niagara Falls location good idea, but a DOME???I understand it would increase chance of hosting SB, but NO SNOW ?? maybe if it had retractable roof, closed for the SB & other events, but wide open for all Bills games. No Domes. And no Super Bowl is going to be in Buffalo, NY in the winter time until the WNY region gets better economically. Downtown area needs to be returned to life because that's where most folks would need to be, not in the outer suburbs. What hotels are the thousands of media and people coming to the game going to stay in? Folks complained about Detroit and Minneapolis and Jacksonville SB's. People see the SB as a vacation. I don't know if B-lo is equipped for that many people rolling through at one time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quester74 Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 I think Promo just became my favorite TBD poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Yeah. 51-3 was the last Bills team that could actually play in snow. Now we have a bunch of California pussies and free agents don't want to play in the cold. Half the NFL plays in domes now. Since the idea is to catch Buffalo up to the rest of the NFL, maybe we should act like it's not 1990 anymore. PTR Cleveland built an outdoor facility; Baltimore; Pittsburgh; Cincinnati; Chicago; New England; the Jets/Giants. No need for a dome to "catch up with the rest of the NFL". Buffalo should be itself. Players play where they get paid and can have success. If they go to Green Bay they will come to Buffalo. No dome needed sir. Money and results are needed. Has nothing to do with the cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrid Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 No Domes. And no Super Bowl is going to be in Buffalo, NY in the winter time until the WNY regiongets better economically. Downtown area needs to be returned to life because that's where most folks would need to be, not in the outer suburbs. What hotels are the thousands of media and people coming to the game going to stay in? Folks complained about Detroit and Minneapolis and Jacksonville SB's. People see the SB as a vacation. I don't know if B-lo is equipped for that many people rolling through at one time. I could see a Niagara Falls Super Bowl. imagine the blimp shots! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 If the NFL can afford to pay outrageous salaries to its players. Outrageous guarantees to unproven draftees, they can afford to build their own stadiums. I wouldn't want any of my tax money going to build a stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meark Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 I'd rather not take any Obama money...our grandchildren's grandchildren will be paying for it in the end. No no no.. your grandchildren's grandchildren will be paying back Bush's mistakes and illegal wars. Your grandchildren's grandchildren's grand kids will be paying back anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Cleveland built an outdoor facility; Baltimore; Pittsburgh; Cincinnati; Chicago; New England; the Jets/Giants. No need for a dome to "catch up with the rest of the NFL". Buffalo should be itself. Players play where they get paid and can have success. If they go to Green Bay they will come to Buffalo. No dome needed sir. Money and results are needed. Has nothing to do with the cold. In my opinion better playing conditions greatly reduces injuries and given a choice players and coaches would probably prefer playing and practicing in a controlled environment. Does playing in 20 mile an hour winds help a QB's accuracy or playing on a slippery surface help you make cuts better? Do you want weather conditions dictating the outcome of a game or the Coaches and athletes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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