bobobonators Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 I'd HAPPILY give up our 2nd round pick and maybe a 3rd or 4th round pick teh following year for McNabb. Also, as another poster noted, I'd happily swap 1st round picks with the Eagles for McNabb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 I say do what it takes to get him here. many of you say you are not willing to give up a 2nd rounder for McNabb? Lets take a stroll down memory lane with first rounders: Would you trade ___________ for Donovan Mcnabb right now? 2009- Aaron Maybin: YES 2009- Eric Wood: Yes 2008- Leodis: Yes 2007- Marshawn: Yes 2006- Donte: Yes 2005: none 2004: JP- YES 2004: Evans: Yes Obviously you have a chance of getting a very good player in the 1st round, but odds are strongly in favor that he wont be as good as Donovan. AND you can get good players in every round. Its all a crapshoot. I would give almost whatever it takes to put him in a Bills uni for 2010 to 2013 or 2014. Get a guy in the 3rd or wait til next year and get a GOOD QB like Mallett or Locker, and let him sit for 2 years. IF Philly wanted only a 2nd rounder for him, it would be like striking gold! McNabb is a proven winner, an above average QB, and has at bare minimum 3 years left at a high level. To say no to a 2nd rounder is plain foolish, and would have to wonder if your last name was Guy or Modrak. This team has not had a QB since Jim Kelly. To pass up McNabb would show the city of Buffalo Ralph has no interest in winning right now. I, on the other hand, want to have a winning team in B-Lo ASAP. Giving up a 2nd rounder or even a 1st would not set this franchise back much, if at all. GO BILLS! I completely agree man. Only one thing though, I would qualify your "whatever it takes"...if they wanted our 1st round pick for McNabb, I don't think I'd pull the trigger dude. Swapping first rounders yes. A second and maybe another pick this season or next season, yes. I'd pretty much give up anything other than our first rounder straight up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rstencel Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 What's your rationale other than Super Bowl appearances? Because when you look at their productivity, it's not that different. And McNabb's got some years left in him. Btw, I certainly do think that Warner deserves to go to the HOF. True, very different types of QB's who have played with very different systems. Warner at his best is a more accurate QB. But he has also look much worse some years than McNabb ever has been. McNabb is a more consistent player year after year I think. Warner uses his receivers very well, while McNabb uses TE and Backs allot more, and has not been very consistent at using his receivers. However an argument can be made that the Eagles haven't exactly been strong at receiver other than the one year TO was there. I like McNabb, but would rather see them go get someone younger to develop. They are switching defenses, and in process of building the line, so don't think in a position to win now. If defense was set, then I would prefer a Veteran who is ready to win now, but unless they have a very strong off-season at both draft and free agency, don't see them in playoffs this year no matter who the QB is. With that in mind, If they are going to trade for someone, would rather see a Troy Smith or Kolb type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 I love mcnabb, but he sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 If you want McNabb, why not just make a billboard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFL Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 seriously, loved him at the 'cuse but those days are not only "over", they never really "were". an over-the-hill, under-developed under/over-throwing QB will not fix the Bills' problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHNNYFAIRPLAY Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Some reports said that McNabb had no interest in Buffalo. That's apparently false and he'd be open to playing for the Bills, but would rather remain an Eagle, period. What is this statement based on? Some Reports dont cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloradobillsfan Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 just for the sake of conversation what do you suppose it would take to get the eagles to give up kevin kolb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Kelly Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 If Clayton said this than think the total opposite. Thats what will happen. He is about as reliable as a wet diaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 No way in hell would I give up more then a 4th round pick for McNabb. People- we have many, many holes to fill. A 32 year old average QB is not how we make the playoffs! I warned about Bledsoe- take heed McNabb Amen My Brother...Amen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uforesircher Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 i'd give up edwards, parrish and 2011#1 for donovan - kills a few birds with one stone - without damaging our current draft selection this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machinegun12 Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 mcnabb has less than three years of useful life left by pretty much anyone's opinion. I like him, and thought he was a great quarterback in his day...but would not use a high draft choice for him. In fact I'd give up more for Vick (who has a lot more tread on the tire) than McNabb, but in any event getting either one of them should be secondary to shoring up the offensive line and developing the defense. If they come to us through a trade involving Lynch or Whitner and a low draft choice, fine. If not...let's look elsewhere, go with free agency or play with the qb's we have. Do you think Peyton Manning has less than 3 years of useful life? (He's older than McNabb by 8 months) Do you think Tom Brady has less than 3 years of useful life? (He's younger than McNabb by 9 months) Mike Vick is 30 in June. Mike Vick has had about half of the success as an NFL QB than McNabb, and hasn't played a full game of football since the end of 2007!!!That's 3 full seasons!!! And you would give up more for him than Donovan McNabb?! SERIOUSLY??!! Not only is McNabb head and shoulders above Vick as a QB and football player...He's head and shoulders above him as a HUMAN BEING!!!! I doubt either one gets traded to the Bills regardless, but what you wrote (even as an opinion) is completely asinine and makes no sense in any line of thinking. You would give up MORE for Vick over McNabb...hey...thank God you don't work for the Bills!!!! (Or do you????!!!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NyQuil Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 I wouldn't mind McNabb. I would hate Vick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Dont give up any draft pics for McNabb. Next years 7th rounder maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Offer a 2nd, if they squawk, throw in Lynch. If they still squawk throw a # 1 their way and our QB problem is solved for the next 3 years. Get a young kid next year, or in a couple of years sign or trade for another vet. Makes more sense to me. Get a QB that has sucked and learned on someone else's dime and loss column. Do the names Brad Johnson or Rich Gannon or Kurt Warner or Kerry Collins ring a bell? They had no "upside" or weren't "young", but their teams won or at least got to the Super Bowl. Donovan has something like 212 TDs and 100 picks for his career. That's outrageous. With McNabb and an improved offensive line, a D that isn't worse than 2009, and we're playing meaningful games late in December. Only to be even better in 2011. What's not to like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manbeast Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 how will a year off affect a brittle aging qb? Who cares he is not our long term solution. but I don't believe it affects him much he already knows how to play. Just look at how injuries early in a career affect a developing player as apposed to a vet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Some of you guys are funny I would go hard after McNabb TO A CERTAIN POINT.....no way I am going to give up a 9th overall pick.........a swap of picks MAYBE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manbeast Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 I love mcnabb, but he sucks. He constantly throws the ball at his recievers feet. I watch a lot of Philly games, they're my second fav team and he's not what we need. I'll take my chances w/a young stud, mcnabb will only get a ring as a backup qb IMO. Ours constantly throw the ball at the defensive backs hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 True, very different types of QB's who have played with very different systems. Warner at his best is a more accurate QB. But he has also look much worse some years than McNabb ever has been. McNabb is a more consistent player year after year I think. Warner uses his receivers very well, while McNabb uses TE and Backs allot more, and has not been very consistent at using his receivers. However an argument can be made that the Eagles haven't exactly been strong at receiver other than the one year TO was there. I like McNabb, but would rather see them go get someone younger to develop. They are switching defenses, and in process of building the line, so don't think in a position to win now. If defense was set, then I would prefer a Veteran who is ready to win now, but unless they have a very strong off-season at both draft and free agency, don't see them in playoffs this year no matter who the QB is. With that in mind, If they are going to trade for someone, would rather see a Troy Smith or Kolb type. If there has ever been an NFL team in the position of "win now," it is the 2010 Buffalo Bills. They haven't made the postseason since 1999. That's completely unacceptable, and "rebuilding" is not a valid excuse anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 If there has ever been an NFL team in the position of "win now," it is the 2010 Buffalo Bills. They haven't made the postseason since 1999. That's completely unacceptable, and "rebuilding" is not a valid excuse anymore. I wish more Bills fans carried this opinion/perspective. This will be the third rebuild in 10 seasons and second in five. With the switch to the 3-4, the Bills have (once again) more needs than resources available to fill those needs. QB, LT, NT, perhaps RT, Rush LB, 5 tech DE, and 2nd WR are all positions of need. The options on the roster are either unproven, or will be switched to a new position. If we learned anything from last season, it's that lots of changes at once isn't a solution to problems. And with FA being short on talent and Buffalo's affinity for finding low cost low reward players here, it's going to be awhile before they are competing for a playoff team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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