Coach Tuesday Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Let's just assme for a minute that the various reports out there are true, and that Shanny, Cowher, Rivera, Weiss, Schotty Jr. and Sr., Harbaugh, and now Frazier have said "thanks but no thanks" to the Bills, leaving them almost completely out of viable options to fill their head coaching vacancy. Should the rest of the League sit tight while one of its storied franchises just whithers on the vine and slowly dies? Can the League even do anything at this point? You would think that Goodell, an activist Commissioner if there ever was one (not to mention a WNY alumn), might consider geting involved, at least behind-the-scenes, to assist with this situation before it becomes a full-fledged trainwreck. I'm sure the other owners don't care too much about a small market team in a dying region, but it has to be at least a bit of an embarassment to the League and also a concern that the competitiveness of the game is threatened if one of its franchise can't fill its coaching vacancy. Perhaps the League could push Ralph to change his management style, or to publicly announce an ownership transition/contingency plan to assure potential candidates. SOMETHING has to be done if these reports are true. If I was another owner, I'd be half amused and half incensed by this. Small market or not, every other owner has some financial interest in the Bills' success, at least in the short-term before they move. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkc Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Let's just assme for a minute that the various reports out there are true, and that Shanny, Cowher, Rivera, Weiss, Schotty Jr. and Sr., Harbaugh, and now Frazier have said "thanks but no thanks" to the Bills, leaving them almost completely out of viable options to fill their head coaching vacancy. Should the rest of the League sit tight while one of its storied franchises just whithers on the vine and slowly dies? Can the League even do anything at this point? You would think that Goodell, an activist Commissioner if there ever was one (not to mention a WNY alumn), might consider geting involved, at least behind-the-scenes, to assist with this situation before it becomes a full-fledged trainwreck. I'm sure the other owners don't care too much about a small market team in a dying region, but it has to be at least a bit of an embarassment to the League and also a concern that the competitiveness of the game is threatened if one of its franchise can't fill its coaching vacancy. Perhaps the League could push Ralph to change his management style, or to publicly announce an ownership transition/contingency plan to assure potential candidates. SOMETHING has to be done if these reports are true. If I was another owner, I'd be half amused and half incensed by this. Small market or not, every other owner has some financial interest in the Bills' success, at least in the short-term before they move. Just a thought. We are not out of viable options . To your point about the league stepping in. I Remeber that when The Giants were god awful for like 15 years in a row, the league basically put George young and Wllington Mara together. Those were very different times . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 18, 2010 Author Share Posted January 18, 2010 We are not out of viable options . To your point about the league stepping in. I Remeber that when The Giants were god awful for like 15 years in a row, the league basically put George young and Wllington Mara together. Those were very different times . I think it used to have more of an activist/group mentality but some of that went away when Al Davis decided to sue the NFL. Ralph's a lot of things but he does not appear to be litigious. Hopefully someone in Manhattan is paying attention to this embarassing turn of events and they're already working on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkc Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 I think it used to have more of an activist/group mentality but some of that went away when Al Davis decided to sue the NFL. Ralph's a lot of things but he does not appear to be litigious. Hopefully someone in Manhattan is paying attention to this embarassing turn of events and they're already working on it. It should have went something like this Ralph meet Mr acorsi, ( or fill in the blanks with a well connected league elder), he is going to be your best friend this year and help you hire a front office and a coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Let's just assme for a minute that the various reports out there are true, and that Shanny, Cowher, Rivera, Weiss, Schotty Jr. and Sr., Harbaugh, and now Frazier have said "thanks but no thanks" to the Bills, leaving them almost completely out of viable options to fill their head coaching vacancy. Should the rest of the League sit tight while one of its storied franchises just whithers on the vine and slowly dies? Can the League even do anything at this point? You would think that Goodell, an activist Commissioner if there ever was one (not to mention a WNY alumn), might consider geting involved, at least behind-the-scenes, to assist with this situation before it becomes a full-fledged trainwreck. I'm sure the other owners don't care too much about a small market team in a dying region, but it has to be at least a bit of an embarassment to the League and also a concern that the competitiveness of the game is threatened if one of its franchise can't fill its coaching vacancy. Perhaps the League could push Ralph to change his management style, or to publicly announce an ownership transition/contingency plan to assure potential candidates. SOMETHING has to be done if these reports are true. If I was another owner, I'd be half amused and half incensed by this. Small market or not, every other owner has some financial interest in the Bills' success, at least in the short-term before they move. Just a thought. I still believe in the conspiracy theory that the league and Ralphie want to destroy the fan base so they can say look at the lousy attendance and say nobody cares and move the team to Toronto or LA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkc Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 I still believe in the conspiracy theory that the league and Ralphie want to destroy the fan base so they can say look at the lousy attendance and say nobody cares and move the team to Toronto or LA. they might get their wish then again get a head coach, left tackle and Mcnabb and all the sudden we are 8-6 playing important games in December did i just say that out loud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 there are only 32 of these jobs- they will fill it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 there are only 32 of these jobs- they will fill it So what? I am sick of hearing this only 32 jobs bull ****. If #32 sucks ass and even college coaches don't see it as a good move, who gives a flip how many there are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Let's just assme for a minute that the various reports out there are true, and that Shanny, Cowher, Rivera, Weiss, Schotty Jr. and Sr., Harbaugh, and now Frazier have said "thanks but no thanks" to the Bills, leaving them almost completely out of viable options to fill their head coaching vacancy. Should the rest of the League sit tight while one of its storied franchises just whithers on the vine and slowly dies? Can the League even do anything at this point? You would think that Goodell, an activist Commissioner if there ever was one (not to mention a WNY alumn), might consider geting involved, at least behind-the-scenes, to assist with this situation before it becomes a full-fledged trainwreck. I'm sure the other owners don't care too much about a small market team in a dying region, but it has to be at least a bit of an embarassment to the League and also a concern that the competitiveness of the game is threatened if one of its franchise can't fill its coaching vacancy. Perhaps the League could push Ralph to change his management style, or to publicly announce an ownership transition/contingency plan to assure potential candidates. SOMETHING has to be done if these reports are true. If I was another owner, I'd be half amused and half incensed by this. Small market or not, every other owner has some financial interest in the Bills' success, at least in the short-term before they move. Just a thought. get the commisioner involved to hire a coach??......IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. guaranteed 100% the bills will hire a coach. you may or may not like the choice.....but they will hire one....all on their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 I think Jerry Jones, Snyder, Kraft and many others would be singing like crazy if the Bills left Buffalo. This way they can suck in more money from the NFL since Buffalo isnt holding them down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills(70) Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Are the Bills on the verge of insolvency? Are there no takers for the organization or not markets to put an NFL team in at this time? No and No. The league would have no business getting involved with the Bills at this time. The team is still making money. Although, not as much as it could if it moved to a larger market. And there in lay the answer you seek, this organization will eventually leave WNY for a larger market, its the nature of business and the Bills and NFL are a business. I really don't see all of the uproar over this team leaving the area. Any business will attempt to elevate its bottom line, its inherent in all business. There are 32 teams to choose to root for or be a fan of, that team doesn't necessarily have to be in WNY. I understand he pride issue, but lets stop pretending the area is what it was 40 years ago or more. This area has declined in population, industry has left, a shrinking job market and this all continues to this day. Its not as though any of this should surprise any of us. If anything, people should be looking at the local leadership (city/county leaders) as well as the State government and the policies they implemented to allow this to happen. The Bills had a great run while they were here, the NFL isn't going to prevent them from leaving, they can absorb the market hit that will occur from the fans bitterness here and they will actually be enlarging their customer base in a larger market by moving the team. Its just common sense in the free market society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mousetrap08 Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 I still believe in the conspiracy theory that the league and Ralphie want to destroy the fan base so they can say look at the lousy attendance and say nobody cares and move the team to Toronto or LA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Maybe ESPN can send a reporter to interview Ralph live on TV -- and start asking for his opinion on wildly outrageous topics (like Adolf Hitler). That was enough to convince MLB to come in and seize control of the Cincinnati Reds from Marge Schott back in the 90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Let's just assme for a minute that the various reports out there are true, and that Shanny, Cowher, Rivera, Weiss, Schotty Jr. and Sr., Harbaugh, and now Frazier have said "thanks but no thanks" to the Bills, leaving them almost completely out of viable options to fill their head coaching vacancy. Should the rest of the League sit tight while one of its storied franchises just whithers on the vine and slowly dies? Can the League even do anything at this point? You would think that Goodell, an activist Commissioner if there ever was one (not to mention a WNY alumn), might consider geting involved, at least behind-the-scenes, to assist with this situation before it becomes a full-fledged trainwreck. I'm sure the other owners don't care too much about a small market team in a dying region, but it has to be at least a bit of an embarassment to the League and also a concern that the competitiveness of the game is threatened if one of its franchise can't fill its coaching vacancy. Perhaps the League could push Ralph to change his management style, or to publicly announce an ownership transition/contingency plan to assure potential candidates. SOMETHING has to be done if these reports are true. If I was another owner, I'd be half amused and half incensed by this. Small market or not, every other owner has some financial interest in the Bills' success, at least in the short-term before they move. Just a thought. Dude, what don't you get? The league has intervened and that is why the Bills can't get a coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12Kachy Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 The Bills will find someone, I mean someone will be desperate enough to take the job. There will likely be no decent coordinators left though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endzone Animal Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Why get the commissioner involved? Simply keep lowering your standards until someone says yes. Kinda funny how low we've already gone and still can't get the tiniest nibble...the fun is seeing how much lower on the food chain this will need to get before they can find a willing dance partner! I know one thing, it'll sure be the ugliest girl at the dance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Capitalism gives everyone the freedom to succeed - and to fail. Freedom rules - it has created more wealth for more people than any other system the world has ever seen. Just say no to bailouts - even bailouts of the Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolstoy Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Let's just assme for a minute that the various reports out there are true, and that Shanny, Cowher, Rivera, Weiss, Schotty Jr. and Sr., Harbaugh, and now Frazier have said "thanks but no thanks" to the Bills, leaving them almost completely out of viable options to fill their head coaching vacancy. Should the rest of the League sit tight while one of its storied franchises just whithers on the vine and slowly dies? Can the League even do anything at this point? You would think that Goodell, an activist Commissioner if there ever was one (not to mention a WNY alumn), might consider geting involved, at least behind-the-scenes, to assist with this situation before it becomes a full-fledged trainwreck. I'm sure the other owners don't care too much about a small market team in a dying region, but it has to be at least a bit of an embarassment to the League and also a concern that the competitiveness of the game is threatened if one of its franchise can't fill its coaching vacancy. Perhaps the League could push Ralph to change his management style, or to publicly announce an ownership transition/contingency plan to assure potential candidates. SOMETHING has to be done if these reports are true. If I was another owner, I'd be half amused and half incensed by this. Small market or not, every other owner has some financial interest in the Bills' success, at least in the short-term before they move. Just a thought. This is a very intelligent post, in my opinion. However, the other posters may be correct in pointing out that many of the other owners might want to see the Bills leave Buffalo, in which case there might not be any effort by the league to make assurances of geographical or ownership stability. Still, it can't be good for the league to have an old AFL franchise like this falling apart at the seams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandius Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 I don't think the league cares. They probably prefer the Bills to be in LA anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 This is ridiculous. Even if all of those did say no, so what? There are still a ton of viable candidates out there some of which have said they are interested. Other viable candidates who have not said no: Brian Billick Jim Fassel Bill Cowher Dom Capers the Mooch Bill Callahan Rob Ryan Dennis Green Ted Cottrell Jason Garrett Mike Martz Marv Levy Mike Zimmer Mike Leach Marty S Marc Trestman Mike Heimerdinger (I like that this guy changes his game based on the players in the game) Kirk Ferentz Karl Dorrell (Would have the added benefit that he knows the ins and out of Dolphins offense) Pat Shurmur Pete Carmichael Jr. (Saints OC) Not saying they're all great or even that I want any of them. But to say there are no more viable candidates out there are just plain silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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