SageAgainstTheMachine Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Remember when everybody was soooo jealous of the playoff bound Jets and 49ers because they had fiery head coaches who yelled at people? Both of those teams are on major slides and currently stand at 4-6. Granted, I'd take both of them over Jauron, but can everybody finally agree that the degree to which a coach manifests his emotion on the sidelines has nothing to do with results? Mediocre coaches coaching mediocre teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I thought this was going to be about the 46 defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyT Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Rex Ryan has turned into a puss since the Jets have started sliding. Not just cause he's been crying in front of the media, but because he should be slapping Sanchez upside the head when he makes his stupid bonehead mistakes. And having a fiery HC is only part of a much more complex equation. Don't think you can say that it has NOTHING to do with success...sometimes it's just part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In space no one can hear Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Remember when everybody was soooo jealous of the playoff bound Jets and 49ers because they had fiery head coaches who yelled at people? Both of those teams are on major slides and currently stand at 4-6. Granted, I'd take both of them over Jauron, but can everybody finally agree that the degree to which a coach manifests his emotion on the sidelines has nothing to do with results? Mediocre coaches coaching mediocre teams. I agree with you- I just think it is a natural reaction by people after, basically having a corpse on the sidelines the last 3 1/2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hossage Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I would still hire either one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Remember when everybody was soooo jealous of the playoff bound Jets and 49ers because they had fiery head coaches who yelled at people? Both of those teams are on major slides and currently stand at 4-6. Granted, I'd take both of them over Jauron, but can everybody finally agree that the degree to which a coach manifests his emotion on the sidelines has nothing to do with results? Mediocre coaches coaching mediocre teams. 49er's have lost to mostly good teams and have beaten last year's conference champs. Their schedule gets much easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I would still take Singletary over 90% of the coaches around the league today. His offensive roster is worse than ours, just not as injured. His team competes every week not like our joke of a team. Give him a competant roster and his wins improve. And Ryan has his D playign great as well. How many games do you want him to win when his QB turns the ball over 4 times a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I thought this was going to be about the 46 defense. I thought so too. Didn't Buddy Ryan come up with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 but can everybody finally agree that the degree to which a coach manifests his emotion on the sidelines has nothing to do with results? You'll never get everyone to agree on anything. But, I agree with you on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Remember when everybody was soooo jealous of the playoff bound Jets and 49ers because they had fiery head coaches who yelled at people? Both of those teams are on major slides and currently stand at 4-6. Granted, I'd take both of them over Jauron, but can everybody finally agree that the degree to which a coach manifests his emotion on the sidelines has nothing to do with results? Mediocre coaches coaching mediocre teams. I agree. I love the mentality of some fans. The Bills aren't winning, their HC isn't fiery, therefore all HC's who aren't fiery are losers. Let's see how that works the other way. Eric Mangini is a fiery coach... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 You'll never get everyone to agree on anything. But, I agree with you on this. +2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Rex Ryan is such a hack. He'll have a nice career being a sponsor for Kleenex after he officialy fails at hc. At least the last Ravens dc to fail as a hc had the decenecy to be a sharp dresser, unlike that balling blob. Of the few things that give me enjoyment in the NFL, it will be watching Rex Ryan fail, after he was annointed by the media here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force_Majeur Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I agree. I love the mentality of some fans. The Bills aren't winning, their HC isn't fiery, therefore all HC's who aren't fiery are losers. Let's see how that works the other way. Eric Mangini is a fiery coach... Spot on man. Some of us need to enroll in logic 101. Personally, I think you "scream" at everybody, you're one-dimensional. One-dimensional approaches do not work, in the NFL or in life. I enjoyed watching Mike Singletary as much as the next guy in the 80s, but numbers don't lie. In Ryan's case, he has a rookie QB making rookie mistakes. This is costing him games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 49er's have lost to mostly good teams and have beaten last year's conference champs. Their schedule gets much easier. I would still take Singletary over 90% of the coaches around the league today. His offensive roster is worse than ours, just not as injured. His team competes every week not like our joke of a team. Give him a competant roster and his wins improve. And Ryan has his D playign great as well. How many games do you want him to win when his QB turns the ball over 4 times a game. I'm not sold on Ryan but living here in the bay area, I'm pretty convinced that Singletary is doing a great job. The Niners have had injuries at key positions, mediocre quarterbacking, the Crabtree distraction, and a tough schedule. I think he has that team overachieving. They're not that talented with a few exceptions. As for the original post, I agree with Sage. I also think that the the admiration goes beyond the yelling, screaming thing and extends into just how a coach carries himself. Cowher has his trademark jutting jaw. Gruden has his scowling and grimacing. It has really no bearing on how good a coach they are but it's a part of their trademark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I should add that Willis might be the best player at his position right now and Crabtree and Vernon Davis certainly have the talent to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Singletary IMO has that team overachiving. He has Alex smith throwing multi TDs games and Frank Gore running over the league and that defense had no business stopping favre and the Vikes and if not for a miracle play they win that game. Rex Ryan well i think he just sucks personally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apulshunny Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I agree. I love the mentality of some fans. The Bills aren't winning, their HC isn't fiery, therefore all HC's who aren't fiery are losers. Let's see how that works the other way. Eric Mangini is a fiery coach... And Mangini was good enough to beat the Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Remember when everybody was soooo jealous of the playoff bound Jets and 49ers because they had fiery head coaches who yelled at people? Both of those teams are on major slides and currently stand at 4-6. Granted, I'd take both of them over Jauron, but can everybody finally agree that the degree to which a coach manifests his emotion on the sidelines has nothing to do with results? Mediocre coaches coaching mediocre teams. Actually the JETS have a lot of talent...They have the best OL in football and one of the best running tandems in the game and they are just one game ahead of us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 The JETS fall started for 2 reasons: Kris Jenkins got hurt and teams got film on Sanchez. Welcome back to earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleed Bills Blue Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 And remember when Josh McDaniels was able to win games single handedly just by running down the sidelines pumping his fist? Hell, by that measure Tom Landry must have sucked because he was just Dick Jauron with a tie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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