BillsVet Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Aside from hiring Buddy Nix as a national scout, there haven't been any new faces or opinions in this organization in quite some time. IMO, that's how they want it to be, though their hand may be forced this off-season. One wonders why the team is rooted in preventing outside and qualified individuals from entering the scene. Should the Bills finish 7-9 or worse, management has a serious problem: Do they stick with the cheaper and tired strategy of remaining the same, or introduce someone from the outside to a flawed management structure? Or, do they simply replace the lame HC who has proven he cannot win when it counts? I can see them keeping the same front office (and not hiring a GM) while placing the blame squarely onto DJ. Either way, fans are in the same position as they were last year: waiting for the off-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saundena Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Unless the Bills make it to the Holy Land (playoffs), then Jauron is gone and I feel Ralph hires someone to head football operations. Wether or not that person is any good remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Unless the Bills make it to the Holy Land (playoffs), then Jauron is gone and I feel Ralph hires someone to head football operations. Wether or not that person is any good remains to be seen. Ralph will not fire Dick with 2 years left on his contract, no matter how many games they lose. a timely free agent signing in the off-season and the lemmings will be back setting more season ticket sales records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 I believe Ralph will finally cave to the outcry of the fans and clean house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted November 11, 2009 Author Share Posted November 11, 2009 Unless the Bills make it to the Holy Land (playoffs), then Jauron is gone and I feel Ralph hires someone to head football operations. Wether or not that person is any good remains to be seen. Do you need any links to understanding the Holy Trinity? I can't see anyone entering OBD to work for RW with Littman strictly controlling expenditures. Most likely a football ops guy wants Guy, Modrak, and DJ fired which will cost some decent money for this franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flbillsfan#1 Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 I doubt there will be a change in the front office. Hopefully, they hire a STRONG Head Coach that is a good judge of talent & let him have a say in personal matters. The question is how much say has Jauron had in the making of this team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 I doubt there will be a change in the front office. Hopefully, they hire a STRONG Head Coach that is a good judge of talent & let him have a say in personal matters. The question is how much say has Jauron had in the making of this team? He recived more say after Marv left.....No depth and a bunch of spe4cial teamers round out our roster....Good work Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyDingo Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 ...One wonders why the team is rooted in preventing outside and qualified individuals from entering the scene. see: Donanhoe, Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted November 11, 2009 Author Share Posted November 11, 2009 see: Donanhoe, Tom Sure. We once tried to have a football man run the show. And because that didn't work, let's go the route of having amateurs and failures handle it from now on. /sarcasm off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 When you go a whole decade without showing any good results then something should be telling you its time for big changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Aside from hiring Buddy Nix as a national scout, there haven't been any new faces or opinions in this organization in quite some time. IMO, that's how they want it to be, though their hand may be forced this off-season. One wonders why the team is rooted in preventing outside and qualified individuals from entering the scene. Should the Bills finish 7-9 or worse, management has a serious problem: Do they stick with the cheaper and tired strategy of remaining the same, or introduce someone from the outside to a flawed management structure? Or, do they simply replace the lame HC who has proven he cannot win when it counts? I can see them keeping the same front office (and not hiring a GM) while placing the blame squarely onto DJ. Either way, fans are in the same position as they were last year: waiting for the off-season. Exactly. This has been my only addendum to fans calling for Jauron's head at season's end. That being, it is not all his fault. There are 2 individuals in the front office that have been the biggest constant this decade besides Ralph- and that would be Tom Modrak and John Guy. My concern is that if people only call for Jauron's ouster, then Ralph will not hear the outcry that it is really organizational change in the front office that we need; in addition to a new coaching staff. Bobby April and Sanders do atleast appear to be retainable. Everyone else can go. Combine the lack of success Modrak and Guy have had since coming aboard at OBD with the marketing ploys of wannabe-GM-Brandon and you have a recipe for the decade of futility that we have been a witness to for this decade. Solely firing Jauron at seasons end, and bringing in anyone at HC will only go so far. Bring in Shanahan, Cowher, whomever. With Modrak, Guy, and Brandon still having a hand in the football operations the results will remain the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 He recived more say after Marv left.....No depth and a bunch of spe4cial teamers round out our roster....Good work Dick I have thought about this a lot and I'm not so sure. It is shocking that he took Maybin, Wood and Levitre before drafting all db and small lbs. If Mauron stays, look for a first round, perhaps even a top 5 safety, and they will dump Whitner in one way or another. Ralph is not gonna want to pay him for his limited production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 I have thought about this a lot and I'm not so sure. It is shocking that he took Maybin, Wood and Levitre before drafting all db and small lbs. If Mauron stays, look for a first round, perhaps even a top 5 safety, and they will dump Whitner in one way or another. Ralph is not gonna want to pay him for his limited production. If the Bills draft anything other than a LT in the first round this year, I will be teetering. If they draft another player for the secondary in the first round, I will be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Avenger Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 For as much as we, the fans, want to see sweeping changes in both coaching and the FO, I see no indication that any of that will actually happen. We scream about how bad things are and how long things have been bad and can show that the root of the problem is the FO and the coaching staff, the media reports on it and still we don't even get an acknowledgement from the organization that they have a problem. Not that admitting a problem would make much difference - I recall Ralph compaining about the team simply not having the talent and then doing nothing to change that. For as much as we all can't imagine that changes wouldn't be made to at least get us pointed in the right direction, I don't see any signs at all that we'll actually see any action taken. You think you were stunned and amazed Jauron wasn't fired after last season? Wait until we suffer some even worse 2nd half of the season defeats (yes, it always seesm to get worse when you think it can't) and finish with anywhere between 4 and 7 wins and Jauron is retained in the name of continuity or some other BS - then you'll really want to go on a rampage. Start removing sharp objects from your house - I really think that's what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 I have thought about this a lot and I'm not so sure. It is shocking that he took Maybin, Wood and Levitre before drafting all db and small lbs. If Mauron stays, look for a first round, perhaps even a top 5 safety, and they will dump Whitner in one way or another. Ralph is not gonna want to pay him for his limited production. I believe Dick had a lot of say the first 3 years. After the free fall last season, he was kept on but Ralph himself hinted that there had to be changes made in the structure of football operations. It wasn't lost on Ralph that the certain people in the organization lobbied for Jay Cutler but instead Dick and Marv determined the journeyman-like Donte Whitner was going to be a cornerstone of the franchise. This past draft and the complete overhaul of the OL do suggest that there was a change in the Bills muddle huddle yes-think at the top. Still, before "crowning their asses" for picking a few lineman, I do have to say that it was a weak overall effort by the "concussed brain trust". While I like Wood and Levitre, the Bills desperately needed tackles after pedaling Peters, as Walker was barely pedestrian as a RT at his best. Only those with the Kool-Aid IV tubes thought otherwise, and the fans are paying for the front office believing their own bluff and delivering another hollow, wasted season. Unsurprisingly, the Bills have arguably the worst set of OTs (and cheapest) in the NFL. The Maybin pick was a pick for potential over production, which was a huge gamble (yet again) for a team in desperate need of upgrading its talent level. The Maybin pick was in some ways like the Willis McGahee pick; with Willis they took a guy that wouldn't play a down when Gregg Williams was in playoffs or bust mode based completely on their projections of his potential. AM is looking more like a Corey Moore than a Dwight Freeney at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Aside from hiring Buddy Nix as a national scout, there haven't been any new faces or opinions in this organization in quite some time. IMO, that's how they want it to be, though their hand may be forced this off-season. One wonders why the team is rooted in preventing outside and qualified individuals from entering the scene. Should the Bills finish 7-9 or worse, management has a serious problem: Do they stick with the cheaper and tired strategy of remaining the same, or introduce someone from the outside to a flawed management structure? Or, do they simply replace the lame HC who has proven he cannot win when it counts? I can see them keeping the same front office (and not hiring a GM) while placing the blame squarely onto DJ. Either way, fans are in the same position as they were last year: waiting for the off-season. Modrak is pretty much the main guy when it comes to the draft and our drafts have sucked. Frankly, one could argue that Jauron has overachieved on the field given the cards he was dealt by Brandon and the scouts. I think Brandon should go back to just marketing and we should fire Dick and from the scouting dept., at the very least, Modrak. Let the new coach decide on what assts. to keep and the new GM decide what to do with the scouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Modrak is pretty much the main guy when it comes to the draft and our drafts have sucked. Frankly, one could argue that Jauron has overachieved on the field given the cards he was dealt by Brandon and the scouts. I think Brandon should go back to just marketing and we should fire Dick and from the scouting dept., at the very least, Modrak. Let the new coach decide on what assts. to keep and the new GM decide what to do with the scouts. Why do we assume Brandon is going to happily step down and give up his position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Ralph will not fire Dick with 2 years left on his contract, no matter how many games they lose. a timely free agent signing in the off-season and the lemmings will be back setting more season ticket sales records. That only works so many times, signing a big name. There is no way, short of the Bills winning out the season that DJ is employed the day after the season ends no matter how many years are left on his contract. Ralph may be old, but he isn't an idiot or senile. The only reason DJ is not gone know is cause he knows that theres no one on staff that is going to improve them that much more at this point and they are just riding out the season. They have their tickets sold this year. He knows next year though that BIG changes are needed in order to get fans back. Unfortunatly, the fans probably will never be happy with the choice cause it won't be one of the top guys that everyone assumes is available (remember, wanting to coach here has to be mutual, and its not always about money. Alot of these guys have made their money and won championships and have nothing more to prove, they can take their cushy TV jobs and spend lots more time with their families now making good money) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufcomments Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Ralph will not fire Dick with 2 years left on his contract, no matter how many games they lose. a timely free agent signing in the off-season and the lemmings will be back setting more season ticket sales records. I am beginning to think this as well When will Ralph realize that this coach and scouting dept. is not working??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufcomments Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Modrak is pretty much the main guy when it comes to the draft and our drafts have sucked. Frankly, one could argue that Jauron has overachieved on the field given the cards he was dealt by Brandon and the scouts. I think Brandon should go back to just marketing and we should fire Dick and from the scouting dept., at the very least, Modrak. Let the new coach decide on what assts. to keep and the new GM decide what to do with the scouts. Dude, Modrak is drafting to fit Jaurons coaching style, small quick players who are nice guys off the field. This problem is all related to Jauron and his type of players. Look at the Jets, big , fast players that play with an Edge, drafted that way to fit the style of the HC, Mr Ryan. The Billboard is so spot on, Ralph needs to clean house before we get any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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