Jerry Jabber

This offense sucks!!!

http://www.wgr550.com/Watkins--Branch-and-Kyle-Williams-among-Bills-inac/9034669?pid=422941 "In addition to Watkins, defensive tackle Alan Branch (undisclosed), defensive tackle Kyle Williams (leg), guard Chris Williams (lower back), tight end Tony Moeaki (hamstring), safety Jonathan Meeks (neck), cornerback Mario Butler (ankle) and cornerback Bobby Felder (groin) all will not play on Saturday against the Buccaneers." I remember reading that KW was held out of practice due to a leg injury, but I didn't see anything saying what part of the leg (or which) and how severe the injury is. I hope the injury isn't serious and won't linger on in the regular season like his bone spur/achillies tendon did for two seasons.

The mods ask that we only posted a few quoted lines from the article, so if you read the first half of the article, Kryk states his sources say all bids were over $1Billion.

I have to lean heavily towards Kryk on this one as he and John Wawrow have been two reliable sources, as Ozanian does not seem that he is knowledgable with the Buffalo Bills, the Buffalo area, or football in general. Ozanian seems to be more for the large financial numbers of the transaction. It's obvious that Ozanian's agenda is to see the Bills sold for a record number, especially after seeing the L.A. Clippers receive a $2 Billion dollar bid. Ozanian knows that the Bills will not sell for $2 Billion or close to that range as long as the team is in Western New York, so by posting lower numbers in his article, he's hoping to see the bidding process stopped and have the NFL step in and try to force Morgan Stanley to stop the bidding process and start all over with a new bank, with no restrictions on moving the Bills to of Western New York, so they can be sold for that record amount in Los Angeles or Toronto.

http://www.torontosun.com/2014/08/22/toronto-group-bid-more-than-1-billion-for-bills-which-calls-into-question-forbes-report "If the numbers Forbes is reporting are true, then why did the trust's investment bank, Morgan Stanley, inform the Toronto group in the hours after the first-bid deadline that it was toast unless it rebid with a higher amount? Even though it was only $70 million behind front-runner Pegula, and $18 million ahead of Trump? And then why are Toronto group principals mulling right now whether to pull the plug on their bid effort? Who pulls out when they're that close? Even if Forbes' Pegula bid amount is the only one correct, then so much of what has been reported over the past month regarding the sale would be undermined. Think about what that would mean."

John Kryk calls into question the Forbes report: http://www.torontosun.com/2014/08/22/toronto-group-bid-more-than-1-billion-for-bills-which-calls-into-question-forbes-report "When the Toronto group comprising rocker Jon Bon Jovi, MLSE chairman Larry Tanenbaum and the Rogers family resubmitted their first-round bid on Aug. 5 (after their initial offer of July 29 was rejected, in part for being uncompetitively low) I reported even before the group sent it in that the new amount was "probably between $1 billion and $1.1 billion. I now know for a fact that that amount is exactly correct. In their preliminary valuations, Bills bidders were allowed to provide either a specific number or a narrow range, and the trio revised its valuation up to a range of precisely $1 billion to $1.1 billion, I can report with certainty."

Initial bids are supposed to be low, as they are not the final bid. Expect the final bids to be higher. IMO, the team will sell in the range of $950M-$1.11B.

http://profootballta...-to-collapsing/ "The clearest objective evidence regarding the coming collapse of the attempt to buy the Bills comes from the cancellation of a Wednesday tour of Ralph Wilson Stadium. It’s part of the due diligence process for all finalists, and with the tour canceled and not expected to be rescheduled, it will be impossible for the Bon Jovi bid to be accepted." So it looks like it's time to turn out the lights, because for Bon Jovi and the Toronto group, the partys over!!

Adam Benigni ‏@AdamBenigni 1h Source close to #Bills sale insists Tom Golisano has submitted indicative bid. Second source says he did not - conflicting info.@wgrz

http://blogs.canoe.c...ss-sources-say/ "One source said that barring a significant development, or reformation of the group, the Toronto trio is likelier to disband than submit a binding, definitive bid early next month along with the other finalists."

http://blogs.canoe.c...ss-sources-say/ "One source said that barring a significant development, or reformation of the group, the Toronto trio is likelier to disband than submit a binding, definitive bid early next month along with the other finalists."

I try and base it off of who has been reporting info the most accurately. John Wawrow has been a very reliable source, same with John Kryk. Tim Graham has been hit or miss.

If you don't believe what's being reported then good for you.

It's been reported numerous times from numerous sources.

I doubt the validity of the article. The Bon Jovi/Toronto group's first bid was rejected because it was deemed too low, and the author is claiming their bid was the second highest (above Trump's bid). If that was the case, then why didn't Trump's bid get rejected as it's lower that Bon Jovi's?

Buffalo Rumblings did a great interview with John Wawrow of the Associated Press. In that interview, John stated that if Terry Pegula were to win the bid, that he could possibly overpay for the Bills (like he did when he bought the Sabres) and bid at $1.11B, which would still make the sale the highest in the NFL. John also stated the Bills could be sold at $950M, so if the reports from Forbes are correct, then the final bid could be around $950M. http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2014/8/19/6044337/john-wawrow-associated-press-buffalo-bills-sale-training-camp In regards to the guy writing for Forbes, he wrote earlier in the year that it was a no-brainer for the Toronto group to bid $1.2B and move the team to Toronto as Toronto is a growing city, so it’s apparent this guy is not knowledgeable in football and don’t take what he writes seriously.

Thanks Astro!!

Good day to you as well. Go Bills!

Twisting things around again I see. In regards to “Gilmore is loafing,” I asked you is that your assumption regarding how Gilmore is currently playing, meaning it’s the preseason and he’s not giving 100%, so that’s why he’s given up TD’s in consecutive weeks. And you twisted that around, as well as trying to put words into my mouth saying that Gilmore should be cut because gave up TD’s in consecutive weeks in the preseason (which I never said). I also brought up the fact about players returning from injuries, or long time periods off of football tend to struggle coming back on the field, which could be a reason why Gilmore’s play is suffering, but you chose to ignore that. So continue being a troll and twisting around other people’s words on here. If you have no concerns about Gilmore play in the preseason, then good on you. The Bills should be playing into the 3rd quarter on their next preseason game, what’s your excuse going to be if Gilmore gives up another TD making it three weeks in a row? Oh wait, I shouldn’t have even asked that because I know you’re respond “he played good throughout his career so far, so it doesn’t matter!”

Count Dorkula, That was last year, not this preseason. I hope when it's the regular season, we'll see the Gilmore of old, but so far, he hasn't looked good. Remember when Turk Schonert Langston Walker got fired 10 days before the start of the regular season? Jauron's job was on the line then. With a new owner coming soon, you can bet a lot more jobs are on the line this year.

Why so serious, I love how you’re twisting around things that I said. I actually tried to have a decent conversation with you, but I can tell that is impossible with you. I mentioned the fact that Gilmore hasn’t looked well so far, which could be from the fact that he had offseason surgery and looks rusty. Others on here have said that the new rules could be impacting Gilmore style of play as well, which I agree could be factor. I also asked based on how Gilmore has been playing now in the preseason, how confident everyone is that Gilmore will match up against Brandon Marshall? Based on your logic, just because Gilmore played at a high level in previous seasons, that automatically guarantees that he will have the same production year after year. It’s okay, I know you have blinders on and don’t like to acknowledge facts just because it’s just the preseason and these games mean nothing. Sorry, but all sports, including the NFL is a results based business, meaning “what have you done for me lately?” So, going back to your irrational logic, you’re saying that anyone who has played great throughout their careers can still play that way now…guess Doug Whaley should try and sign the Bills teams of the 90’s, because Jim Kelly, Andre Reed, Thurman Thomas, Bruce Smith, etc.. were all great year after year, so that means that they can still do it today…man, that’s a great idea, I can’t believe no one else has figured that one out yet. Wow, you’re a freakin’ genius!!! So, go ahead, twist my words around aand try and spin it off in some irrational, delusional way again.

"Why would you do something so stupid?" What the hell is that supposed to mean? So, you're obviously one of those that feels just because it's preseason, it's no big deal. So in essence, you're saying that Gilmore is not giving 100% in preseason (meaning he's loafing it, half-azzing it, etc…) If you don't think how a person's performance in preseason is important, then why don't you ask Turk Schonert and Langston Walker about that? What concerns me about Gilmore, as well as McKelvin and Glenn is that these guys are coming off of offseason surgeries (or in Glenn's case, an illness). So far, Gilmore has looked rusty (like he did last year when he came back from his wrist injury). I'm hoping these preseason games will help knock the rust off of Gilmore's game (if that is truly the case here). If Gilmore and McKelvin don't get the rust off, then I feel they could be targeted often come the regular season, as the Bills run D looks much improved, and teams will be throwing it a lot more. If opposing teams see Gilmore and McKelvin struggle in the preseason, you can guarantee that QB's will be throwing their way early and often throughout the game. I remember when McGee first came back from a knee injury during the season and he got beaten badly all game by Ted Ginn Jr when he was on the Dolphins (I think Ginn had over 180 yards that game). Another example is when Jason Peters sat out all offsesaon, then once he was put back into the starting lineup, he wasn't in "game shape" and his play on the field suffered for a few weeks. I hope to see McKelvin and Glenn on the field during the next two preseason games, and hopefully that will be enough to get the rust off and get these guys "game ready," otherwise those positions will be exploited come week 1 vs the Bears.

Turk Schonert and Langston Walker would've loved you.

I wasn't talking about practice sessions, because if I did, we could discuss how Sammy Watkins has been torching him in those practice sessions.

I agree. Ben had all day in the pocket last night.