KOKBILLS

Well...I guess I should have hit the sarcasm button...Because I don't really think we're cursed...It does seem to me to be the most logical explanation though...Which is quite scary... But Flutie had magical leprechaun powers...So...Don't underestimate that aspect...

Totally, 100% agree...At this point I'm willing to believe it is a curse...Because there are almost no logical explanations for what has gone on over the past decade plus...

It's not just Chan...It's Chan and Buddy...Nix is on record as much as you want claiming Fitz can get The Bills to the Playoffs and beyond...That's not the kind of delusion that is going to grow confidence in your Fan base I'll tell you that much...

Totally agree...If we as fans think it's obvious Fitz is not the guy, how do you think these guys who are professionals feel about it deep down?...Then you have to go out and basically lie in every interview telling everyone it's all roses and cotton candy...It's NOT easy...Especially when you're competitive and talented...You think Stevie does not understand what kind of production they could have even with a Kid like Luck or RG3, let alone a Manning or Brady? It's bound to get worse before it gets better with Fitz...Just the way it is...

You know how many times I have read that, or wrote it over the past decade or so?...Never, ever, assume this Team can't get worse...They will inevitably prove you wrong...

I feel like a broken record on this one...And I do like Dareus...But AJ Green, Patrick Peterson, JJ Watt, and Julio Jones are stars in this league already...That's enough dispute for days...And all play positions that could have been considered needs for the Bills in 2011...Then again there's not many areas the Bills did not need in 2011...

Oh now...That made me REAL hard...

I'm certainly not saying I'm satisfied with Wanny...That would be idiotic...But Dareus is overweight and has no explosion at all right now...I agree with you that KW likes to play the quick penetration game...But Dareus does none of that right now...His best quality currently is running plays down from behind after a 10-15 yard gain...That's not exactly what you expect from the 3rd overall pick and a guy who was Drafted in front of 4 perennial Pro-Bowl-type talents...And I don't think that has much to do at all with scheme...Russell Maryland and Leon Lett lived in the opponents backfield...Because they were consistently beating their man...

Maybe so, but he did not need to grab the jersey at all...McLovin was already gone...

Good talk!!!

Best game of the season? That's not saying much...And that's an understatement... I'm FAR more concerned about the way Dareus is playing than what he is saying...I've watched him pretty closely this year...He's no where near the player he should be at this point of his career...Every time I see AJ Green, Patrick Peterson, JJ Watt, or Julio Jones play I die a little more inside...

Really?

Exactly...It's not what happened, it's how it's happened...Generally speaking these type of losses, in bunches, do not happen to good NFL Teams...And I think that is a bit of an understatement...

No...2-14 gets us Geno (assuming we pick 1st)...Period, end of story...

OK...But if this post is not directed at everyone...Just some morons...Then why does the tile say "Very Weak Fan Base in here..." Instead of, "A very few weak fans in here..." Are you a drama major? And seriously...This a freaking public message board...There are always a few morons on most every topic, ever, in the history of message boards...Do you not understand the art (bad word) of trolling? Or, have you already mastered it?... Kidding...GO BILLS...

And is it not ironic that this year we get hit almost immediately at our two strongest areas, O-line and RB? It's freaking nuts...

If Franchise pain were age The Pac would be infants... We are old men at this...You really have absolutely no idea...You have come to the Kingdom of pain...

Well true...But Alex Smith threw for 300 yards and 3 TD's today...I'm pretty sure you'd take Smith over Fitz...Right?

Agreed...It's definitely not just Dareus...But I thought that kid would be elite...And he's no where near... It's funny I was thinking today that Bills Defenders actually look like they are magnets being attracted to blockers...It's really insane what is going on out there...

Really? The Punter? I mean...Really???

He does hustle when the play goes by him...But remember he's initially blocked at the point on most of those plays...If you think he's doing anything great I would suggest putting on the tape and watching him every down...Just prepare for the disappointment...And believe me when I tell you no one could possibly be more disappointed than I am...He's no where near the player he should be...Not even close...We're talking about the #3 overall pick in a Draft that saw AJ Green, Patrick Peterson, Julio Jones, and JJ Watt Drafted right after him...Dareus' impact should be FAR greater...He gets and stays blocked too much...He's got surprisingly limited quickness and ability to penetrate with explosion...He should be WAY better...But he's not...

I've watched Dareus a ton this year...I mean a lot...He is my favorite player basically...But I have to say that yes, he is double teamed some, but no where near as much as you would think...I've seen KW double teamed FAR more often...What I have seen from Dareus is no explosion off the ball, and once he's stood up it's over, unless the play goes behind him, then he does generally hustle...But you don't Draft a DT at #3 overall to catch RB's from behind...Believe me...If Dareus was all he is supposed to be this Defense would be WAY better...He needs to shed 25 lbs and channel the spirit of Warren Sapp...He's underachieving in a BIG way...

Um...No thanks...

I know Bro...I gotta change my Avatar...

Um...You may very well end up being right...But seriously...The Kid has played 5 NFL Games...There is no way anything is fairly evident just yet...