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I certainly don't mind this...Though I think Fackrell is the 2nd rounder and Jones is the 3rd rounder...Give me Chris Jones instead at #19 and I love it!

Attitude... Honestly I have to admit I had no idea how poorly he played until I started watching the tapes and reading more about it...I think it was crystal clear from early on in the year he disliked his role in Rex's D... Generally I'm not too happy about guys like Mario leaving...Especially when they sign in the Division...He's got talent and I hate seeing talent leave...But even before I read and watched all the stuff about him grading out so poorly last year...honestly...I was unaffected by his imminent departure...He's just not worth the cash he makes...I'm not sure he ever really was...It's pretty clear he can be a surly dude...I would not be surprised to see him have a decent year...But I'm not sad he's gone either...

I agree John...But at the expense of one of the many D-linemen that can be had...even in a trade down...I would not touch LB before #49...And even then...Unless it's Fackrell I'm not crazy about it...

Amen...

Have you read the PFF write-ups about him?...Literally made me drool...

I'd take Chris Jones over Billings all day and twice on Sunday...That does not mean I don't like Billings...But I think Jones can do a lot of what Billings can do and much, much, more...

Just listened to the latest "Move The Chains" podcast...They used this podcast to talk about what they are hearing about certain prospects from their sources around the league...Thought I would share a couple interesting takes... Daniel Jeremiah had this to say about Laquon Treadwell... "I talk to a lot of people around the league. Nobody expects him...and I mean nobody expects him to go in the Top 20 that I talk to..." Bucky Brooks on Treadwell... "The more I think about it the more I think he could be destined to fall into the 2nd Round..." Jeremiah again... "I don't think that is out of the realm of possibility...People may think it's crazy when they hear that..." They then went on to say Treadwell's value is similar to some other speed-deficient WR's...But you can get those guys later...And if you take Treadwell in the 1st your likely passing on a better prospect... Other mentions...They are mostly hearing Noah Spence is dropping... They still won't be surprised if Will Fuller is the 1st WR taken... TJ Green may be Drafted as a CB and go much higher than expected... They both prefer Jacoby Brissett to Kevin Hogan...

I agree on Doctson...And I'm aware of the Bills depth at WR...But I don't think it's as bad as some do...They have a premier NFL WR they gave up two 1st Round picks to get...Woods may not be the best #2 WR...but he's not the worst either...I think they feel out of Hankerson, Boykin, and Little one will stick and contribute...Lewis is 6-4 and has his Rookie year behind him...He's still at OBD...So the Bills see something in him...And I know the Bills will Draft a WR somewhere in this Draft...If Doctson is there at #49 then I'm definitely listening...But I simply want to remind Bills fans of this...If a WR is taken in the 1st Round that's three 1st Round picks in three years on two WR's...It's stupid... I'm not a big Cook guy...And especially not in the 1st Rd...There's another thread in here somewhere that details my opinion on Cook and QB's who do not hit 60% completions in at least one of their years as a Starter in College...Cook never hit 59%...Folks can say what they want about Cook...And I realize he's got some good traits...But if he becomes a Top 10 QB in this league he will be bucking some SERIOUS odds based on his College stats...Hackenberg too...Hackenberg just scares me to be honest...My guess is the Bills are going to roll the dice and take Cardale Jones in the 3rd Round... As for #19 I'm a Chris Jones guy...That's who I want...If he's there (assuming Sheldon Rankins is gone) and the Bills pass on him...Well...I would not be thrilled...I think that kid has super-star potential...I'm not saying I would "Haloti Ngata freak out" again...But it would be similar...

The longer this process goes on...the more I want Jones at #19... And I do see a correlation with Wilkerson...I think Rex will know exactly what to do with this kid...Once he's refined a bit you have someone with the size/athletic ability to be a Top 10 pick easy...And you get him at #19...He's got a little versatility too...Most importantly his floor is pretty high, but I think his ceiling is almost unlimited if he takes to coaching and works hard...Just imagine this 6-6 monster next to Dareus for the next 5 years...Oh my...

Well...Of those 3...I like Jones best...I can't imagine any of them is around at #49...but who knows...In Jones I see a kid that is a potential monster that can be had at #19...I think when Rex watches this kids good tape he drools uncontrollably... Can you imagine Dareus and this guy together? https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/03/30/draft-why-we-should-all-pay-more-attention-to-dt-prospect-chris-jones/ I just can't get over three 1st Round picks in three years for two WR's...It just seems to me like somehow, someway it's going to backfire on us big-time...I know that is not a scientific statement...But still...I can't stand the thought knowing we underachieved big-time on Defense last year...I just think it's poor team building...And in 4, maybe 5 years, one of them has to go...

I'm just not OK with three 1st Round Picks in 3 years at WR...Though I agree it's a need...But it's a #2 WR need...It's a luxury pick because this team needs Defense bad... Personally I want Kevin Dodd, Vernon Butler, or Chris Jones at #19...I think they are all great fits for what Rex does...Butler and Jones can play all over the D-line...I really like their positional flexibility and the different looks we can give with either...I'm assuming Lawson will be gone because I REALLY like him as well...

I mean...Seriously...How well can you really be following/understanding this Draft and the Bills needs when the argument comes down to Floyd vs Ragland vs Treadwell? I don't even have to know who went from 1-18 to know there HAS to be at least 5 other guys that would be better to consider there...And this quote..."Our biggest need is a Red Zone WR..." I guess Sammy would have something to say about that... They picked the WR...And I can't possibly disagree more with that idea...But that admittedly has a lot to do with my philosophy on what this team needs, and what the strength of this Draft/BPA is at #19...I know Treadwell is a good prospect...I'm not an idiot...But there are SO many good Defensive players available...If we were deeper on Defense it would be one thing...But we literally have no LDE, we desperately need pass rush, we need depth behind an aging KW...And we already have a #1 WR...A WR we used TWO 1st Round Picks to get!!! TWO!!! I just hate it...

That was painful to listen to...They should call 3 random posters here and I'm thinking it would be better...

He's not my favorite... At the very least I think it will be a couple years before you want to put him out there... I give him credit for improving in College...But he never seemed like an NFL prospect to me...Of course I'm wrong all the time...So...

No offense meant...But not a big fan of this line of thinking for the Bills in this Draft... This Draft provides a unique opportunity IMHO...The right 1st and 2nd Round picks could be key puzzles to turning this Bills Defense around big time because the Bills have talent on Defense, and two VERY good CB's...Add the right 2-3 players to that mix and now we've got something... I'm just not a fan of taking any Offensive player in the first two rounds of this Draft...I can see a WR or QB in the 3rd and 4th, and expect it...But I'd much rather the Bills stay BPA for the front 7 early in this Draft...We have a gaping hole at DE...We need a rush LB...We could use a multi-purpose DT/3-4 DE like Vernon Butler or Chris Jones... I know WR is a need...But the Bills Offense is going to run the ball more than 50% of the time regardless, and they have a Top 10 NFL WR already...I look at what the Panthers did last year with a VERY similar Offensive philosophy and the Bills depth at WR right now, without Drafting anyone, is equal to the Panthers last year...And this is NOT the 2014 Draft at the WR position...These WR's are being pushed WAY up because it's an off year at the position...I can promise all of you "WR in the 1st round" fans this much...At #19 there will be a Defensive player on the board that is going to be a star in this league...Probably more than one...I just can't say the same about ANY WR in this Draft... Not that I pay a ton of attention to these things...But in this case I'll make an exception...The NFL.com player comparison to Josh Docton is Terrence Williams...Terrence Williams! Now...I know Doctson is a good player...But #19 overall good? And this is a first round pick that we know...100%...will be no better than the #2 WR on this team long term...To me it makes no sense...Not when you can get a legit defensive stud to add a much needed boost to that Defense... One more point...I'm hearing a lot of the opinion/theory that because this Draft is so deep in Defense...especially front 7 Defense...that it's good strategy to take an Offensive player early...I pretty strongly disagree with this thought process...Let's start with the fact that 2 out of the last 3 SB winners did so largely on the back of their Defenses...And NE's Defense was MUCH improved when they beat Seattle...I think there is a difference between what you can get at #19 and what you can get at #80 on the front 7, even in this Draft...A BIG difference...The Bills need starters on Defense...They need depth on Defense...KW is not getting any younger...Mario is gone...They need a young stud to place next to Dareus for years to come, and they need pass rush help...They can get those pieces at #19 and #49 in this Draft...Wait and you risk getting a player that is not ready to give the Bills what they need in 2016...

Or maybe they go with neither? I think assuming the Bills go LB at #19 is ridiculous...If you could combine Ragland and Lee...That's a LB worthy of #19 overall...But I don't like either there...If the Bills are bound and determined to go LB in the 1st I'd rather see them trade down and just take the one that's left... No matter what I prefer SO many D-linemen in this Draft to either Lee or Ragland I don't think it should matter...I really don't see how it will be possible for either of those two to be BPA when the Bills pick...

When I heard the media push about the Bills sitting down with Lynch I swear my first thought was they want a team to Trade up to #19, or ahead of them, just to assure the Jets get locked out...I really, really doubt the Bills have serious interest in Lynch...Mostly because it's likely going to take a 1st round pick to get him...And he's definitely not ready...

No... Yes... Yes please...

Vey nice for the Titans...Very, very nice...

It is awful...My cousin sent the rumor to me earlier today and my response was basically...That would seriously piss me off...And I'm far from the biggest TT fan...Though I like the kid...But #19, #49, a 3rd next year AND TT...to move up 17 spots?...No thanks... On a side note I think it says a lot about what it's like to be a Bills Fan...at least what it's like for me as a Bills Fan of 45 some odd years now... when you read a rumor you're 99.9% sure is bull crap, but you're pissed because the fake trade make the Bills look stupid...

I'm not opposed to either Reed or Robinson...I do like Robinson a bit more simply because I wonder if Reed is ever going to be a 3-down DT in the NFL... But I do like other DT's in this Draft better...Especially for what the Bills need...I love Rankins...I think he's got a lot of Aaron Donald in him...I see Rankins as the potential monster the Bills desperately need to get pressure...I think he can play in any front, and if you put him in there next to Dareus on 3rd down look out!...All that being said I doubt Rankins falls to #19... I also prefer Vernon Butler and Chris Jones...I just think they give you more flexibility, especially in 3-man fronts, and they are better athletes...I worry that Reed and Robinson, while being very good, are lower ceiling-types...While Jones especially, and Butler, have sky-high potential... If Rankins is gone, I would take any of these DT's and be happy...They are all very good prospects in their own right...I just feel Butler and Jones have the potential to be very special...And had they played at Alabama, with the talent that Defense has, they would be lock Top 15 picks...

Sal C commented a bit on the Bills Draft Room and Rex's influence the other day on WGR...In a nutshell he said Rex's opinion, especially with Defensive players, is valued...But that's about as far as it goes...The Draft is Whaley and his Scouting Department's show...He did say that just by luck this Draft lines up with the Bills Defensive needs, and Rex is likely to get the help he would want regardless...But Sal was pretty insistent that Rex has no more pull on Draft picks than any other NFL HC...He did also comment that Rex really likes Whaley and there is a lot of trust between the two of them... It's funny because this is certainly not the first mention of Rex likely loving Nkemdiche...But I think we all know if Rex is going to be in there banging the table for any players it's likely going to be Lawson or Dodd first and foremost...You just have to know Rex loves those two with his connection to that school...And for good reason...They are both very good prospects...

Agreed... And I think Nkemdiche may see the same thing happen...In another year they may get pushed up a bit...But if you really need or want D-line this year there are other very good options that will likely be available in the 1st...

Used the updated Fanspeak Board... Tried to go every round with who I thought was the BPA (Not who was at the top of the FS board)...Ended up with no DB's...Not by design...But because I always liked another player better than the DB's available...I realize the chances of the Bills going 8 picks without Drafting a DB are slim to none...But anyway... This may be the Mock I like best so far...And I've done a million...I feel like this Mock would give a massive boost to the Defense and add nice depth to the O-Line...Plus I get a plug and play slot WR and a developmental QB...If the Bills did this Draft weekend I'd take a vacation to celebrate... 19: R1P19 DE KEVIN DODD CLEMSON 49: R2P18 DT CHRIS JONES MISSISSIPPI STATE 80: R3P17 OLB KYLER FACKRELL UTAH STATE 117: R4P19 QB CARDALE JONES OHIO STATE 139: R4P41 WR DANIEL BRAVERMAN WESTERN MICHIGAN 156: R5P17 C GRAHAM GLASGOW MICHIGAN 192: R6P17 OT WILLIE BEAVERS WESTERN MICHIGAN 218: R6P43 OLB TRAVIS FEENEY WASHINGTON