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Right...Paxton Lynch is a potential 1st Rd Pick...Wentz is going #2...But Jones would not be a 1st Round pick if he started three years at Ohio St while winning a National Championship?...OK... QB's get pushed up...It's the nature of the beast...And athletically he is at the very top in certain categories...Everyone knows the situation at OSU and what happened...He was not a fit...I'll say this much...If he played at FSU for three years he might go #1 overall...

I think some folks are slightly missing the point with Jones... With the extraordinarily high rate of failure QB's drafted after the 2nd round have had, if you're going to take a guy in the 3rd or later, it might as well be a guy with all the physical tools and a rocket arm... The truth is the chances of getting the right guy are slim...But with a kid like Jones you really don't have to tweak much physically...You just have to coach him up and hope he catches on...If he doesn't, it's not like it's going to be a big surprise...But the truth is had he started 3 full years at Ohio St he more than likely would be a 1st Round pick...Right or wrong...So if you're going to do it...Why not do it with the QB that has the most upside?...Work him hard and see if you get lucky...

I really like the Round 1 and 2 combo there...My personal preference is Jones and Correa or Fackrell...I'm OK with either...

Thanks for that Sir...I'm going to listen in...I have to admit I've been a little less impressed with Mayock this year than I normally am...I can't put my finger on it...Maybe I just feel he's gotten too power-drunk off the Belichick teat...

Agreed...I think he's a really neat piece if you have a plan for him...But if he's going to go in the Top 50 I'm more than willing to let another team figure that out...

That would be amazing...And Butler is very high on my "like" list...

Wow! I like it a lot!...

Chris Jones went to Oakland and I cried like a baby...

Well now...

I'm unsure if the Bills know what they are doing...However I have an unhealthy abundance of confidence that I know what I'm doing... I'm interested in who these duds are because no matter what there is going to be one heck of a good D-lineman available at #19...It literally does not matter how this Draft falls...There will be a premium D-lineman available that fits Rex's scheme much better than Mario did...It's pretty much a lock...Whether it's Robinson, Reed, Butler, Jones, Rankins, Nkemdiche (assuming he's not taken off their board)...One of them will be there...And the Bills are in desperate need of that 3rd D-lineman that can play up and down the line in any front...Not to mention there's at least an outside shot that Shaq Lawson will be there...Remember Rex had Richardson and Wilkerson in NY...Also remember a key piece to the Bills D-line is 32 years old coming off a knee injury... I don't mean for this to be a knock on Alexander...It's certainly not meant to be...And I recognize you see something special in the kid...But I feel the same way about that possible pick as I did when the Bills Drafted CJ Spiller while Lynch and Jackson were still on the roster and in their prime...I don't see it as wise team-building when you have BIG needs elsewhere that can be filled by prospects with similar or better grades... Yes! I would double love it!!!

Very strange...First time I've seen Correa in the 1st...I'm sure I've missed a couple though...

If Correa goes before Jones in this Draft I'll eat my... Nevermind...

I mean...Without even reading this yet I'm really hoping he was just referring to athleticism solely...

You would love it? I gotta ask why? Especially considering this is a less-than-great CB class and there is sure to be excellent D-Line prospects available at #19...Guys that would play almost every down...You would be Drafting a guy that would be competing for no more than the Nickel Back position at #19...And even at Nickel he would have serious competition...It literally makes no sense unless they are 100% convinced Gilmore is gone...And even then you're basically sitting #19 for a year...It's not exactly premium roster building... I'm one of the stroke guys... I don't hate the Trade Down...Or the players in the 2nd...I REALLY like Fackrell...But no D-line the whole draft? Is anyone aware we basically have 3 defensive Linemen total and one is 32 years old coming off a knee injury? And no way Rashard Robinson lasts till #218...

It's what I do...

Good stuff...I heard this guy on Ross Tuckers Podcast...Very interesting...

Ragland is a good player...Unquestionably...But the jump is steep...And the Bills already have a player that is similar to Ragland in Preston Brown...And before anyone gets crazy I know Ragland is the better prospect...He'll probably be a better pro...But in Rex's Defense...heck in the NFL period...the vast majority of downs there is only going to be one "inside" LB on the field at a time... And raw numbers matter when you are comparing him against the 3 to 4 players that the Bills will likely be looking at when their pick comes around at #19...I just don't think he's going to stack up against a D-lineman who will be in there on most downs with Dareus and KW...And the top of this Draft is loaded with those kind of D-linemen...LB is a need...But the last thing you want to do is pass on a better player...in another area of need btw (unless of course you ignore all those downs Mario Williams played last year)... I certainly don't want to sound negative about Ragland...Or Lee...Floyd for that matter...But what I see from all of them are more 1-2 down players in this Defense...In a normal Draft year I honestly would be fine with that...Because the Bills do desperately need LB depth...But in this Draft you have D-linemen that have legit Pro Bowl potential...You have guys who are potential monsters that...next to Dareus...would drastically change this Defense on all 3 downs...And IF it comes down to BPA at #19 I just can't see a scenario where any of these LB's...Ragland included...will be better than one of the many D-linemen available...

I had no idea she was from Penfield? I'm from Fairport btw...Which is better than Penfield...

I think Ragland is a nice player... However I'm not in favor of taking a LB at #19...And I don't think the Bills will be either...For a few reasons... Reason #1 is the loss of Mario Williams and the fantastic depth of 1st Round talent that should be available at #19...Many of whom will fit Rex's Defense better than Mario did anyway...Players like the Alabama DT's, Chris Jones, Vernon Butler, and even Nkemdicke are really nice fits for what Rex wants in a D-Lineman...Like I've said here before, think Wilkerson and Richardson... Reason #2...I just don't think any of these LB's is going to be the BPA at #19...Ragland is a good player...But he's not Luke Kuechly...Lee is on the smallish side...He would be a great situation cover-LB as a Rookie...But I'm looking for more in a 1st Round pick...Especially this year...Jones is more of a 3rd Down Pass Rush specialist-type...Any of these three would be great at #49...But I feel #19 is just too high... Lastly...I think if you look at Rex's history he values D-Line over LB...In his 6 years as the Jets HC the highest Draft pick they used on the LB position was Demario Davis at #77 overall (3rd Rd) in 2012...In that same time the Jets used three 1st round picks, and a 3rd, on D-Linemen...Rex is going to have a voice in the process of building his Defense...And this year the talent that will likely be available at #19 lines up... I'm not sure who the Bills take at #19...I know who I prefer...But we'll see...I do however think it's going to come from this DEEP group of D-linemen...And I think it's going to lean towards the tackles who can line up in any of the 3 D-line positions Rex uses in a high percentage of downs...I think the Bills are going to identify a guy who can play the majority of the snaps along side Dareus and KW...It's a huge need regardless...But I think for what Rex wants to do it's FAR more important than a two down LB...

I like Bosa...He reminds me a bit of Jared Allen... That being said...I'm ultra-confident that the Bills can get a player at #19 that will have a great impact on this Defense...It may not be in the same way Bosa would...But it can still result in a much better Defense overall...And I think there is a great chance that a D-Lineman at #19 this year could turn out to be a better player at his position than Bosa will be at DE in the long run... I really love the early depth in this Draft on the D-line...So I see zero reason in any Trade-up talk for a Defensive player...

But I'm sure you know it will still be a lot...Especially for a team with depth issues in need of cheap labor...ie Draft picks...

OK...Seriously..All of you...SHHHHHH!!!!!! There are spies EVERYWHERE...

Seriously? How new are you? I can catch you up on the past 17 years here...In a nutshell...There's been a lot of complaining...Sometimes even good discussion...