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I'm more concerned with Ryan Fitzpatrick's inaccuracy and propensity for throwing wild passes and/or interceptions. Luck has so much better touch on his throws, in my observations, and has the arm strength that Fitzpatrick wishes he had. Nothing against Fitz who's would be fine as a backup, but I'll take Luck everyday regardless. Could it be that their opponent last night was playing a T2 scheme forcing him to throw the short pass and in which Luck completed 33 passes for 292 yards? I'm merely asking.

It's a long standing tradition at OBD to blame fired individuals for bad draft picks. Or, when a guy like Modrak remains part of the process, to leak that he'd have selected Player X who's become successful elsewhere to his media pals. If ole Buddy was helping in '09 and running things in '10, I'm not impressed thus far. The '10 draft class is contributing very little, or the coaching staff doesn't know how to use them properly. They drafted Spiller, who through 8 games had 57 touches from the LOS. Troup was taken to be a 34NT, and they've reverted to a 43. Carrington is a 34DE, but doesn't dress. I'm not worried about the 4th rounders and later, but the top picks should be expected to play a role, and they're not considering their individual draft position. From '09, everyone's distanced themselves from the Maybin pick, Wood is recovering, Levitre is good, and Byrd's rookie season seems to be a fluke. Not what I'd call stellar, especially considering all the rookies contributing this season in the NFL. So from '09, they found 2 guards with 2 very high picks for the position. Not impressive. Most importantly, in two seasons the Bills haven't found one guy to play the toughest positions: QB, OT, and pass-rusher. Instead, we're left with picks at positions that aren't as challenging to find, like S, G, ILB, and RB. Not surprisingly, they still struggle mightily to dominate at the LOS. And I don't believe for a moment that Buddy has the power to fire anyone, despite his apparently lofty position. I'll maintain RW or his handlers are the ones who sign-off on any and all firings. After all, it was RW and not Brandon who fired DJ. Why would the director of college scouting be any different?

Buddy NIx also said back at his hiring PC that the team wasn't that far away. I'll believe Nix when he delivers that baby he promised, but until then, it's all words that apparently some fans actually hang onto. It's a 0-8 team outscored an average of 10 points per that can't figure out which defense to run, has a #1 pick getting 8 touches per game, and is 20M+ under what they spent last year. Sometimes I wish the Bills front office would get stranded on a cruise ship, RW included, out in the middle of the Pacific.

Levy had perennially the most talented teams in the NFL. Nix-Gailey have one of the, if not the, least talented team in the NFL. Huge difference and poor comparison. It seems like every year the Colts, Pats, Chargers, Ravens, Steelers, Giants, Eagles, Falcons, and now Chiefs are getting contributions from their rookies. See a trend there? Good GM's know how to draft for the future AND for the present. Buffalo hasn't done that in the past ten seasons, including this year. You get what you pay for at GM and HC. And RW doesn't pay but would rather have people he knows at the GM position. Funny.

I don't see a plan almost a year into the Nix-Gailey pairing. The team went into the season wanting to run the ball with 3 quality backs, and has all but abandoned the run game to the tune of throwing it 60% of the time. On defense, they wanted to implement a 34 and have moved from that to other fronts because they can't stop anyone. Their prized 9th overall pick is getting less than 8 touches from the LOS each game, although if you spend a first on a RB, that guy better be able to play immediately. RB is one of the only positions where instinct and physical ability matter more than knowing the scheme. But some genius will come along and say he's not on the field because his blocking isn't good enough. Then why'd they take him? They needed immediate impact rookies in rounds 1-3. What they got isn't doing that yet when other teams are getting production from their rookies. It seems like DJ all over again in one respect: another old school HC doesn't trust his rookies enough to play them so they get valuable game experience. Maybe there was a reason Gailey and Nix weren't on anyone's radar to fulfill the roles they were hired for in Buffalo?

Any new Bills logo has to have RW's face on it. He's been the face of the franchise since Day 1, so it's only fitting that as they march toward history RW is part of it.

Offensive genius Chan Gailey is throwing 60% of the time now. The question has to be why, and I suspect it's because the OL struggles to run block, which was on display last week. Chris Johnson weighs about the same as CJ does now. It's a matter of the OL being able to run block and give him a crease. That is, if Chan would give him the ball from the LOS more than 8 times a game. 32 points scored in two weeks against decent teams in KC and CHI is not what I'd call moving the ball and scoring points. So the offense scores more points, great. The defense gives up more points too. And the record is what you are: 0-8.

I would say of the 2010 class, Arthur Moats is contributing more than any of them, including Spiller. That's not a statement of talent, but it seems Gailey and their staff is reluctant, as was DJ, to use younger guys. And if they don't get experience, how will they improve?

It helps when (insert OT here) isn't getting blasted into the backfield. Howard and Wrotto have been particularly bad in the run game, and Bell isn't much better. Finding quality OT's not snagged from other team's practice squads, are late round draft picks or UDFA's would help. I don't think Jackson has lost a step, but when Gailey goes away from the running game and gets into pass-happy mode, Jackson doesn't get a chance to work into a rhythm.

It's Year -1 for rebuilding, although ideally it would be Year 0 and simply too many changes implemented than absolutely necessary. While Chan has the offense looking better that DJ, it's completely mitigated by the failure of the defense to stop anyone particularly on the ground. I would expect a rebuilding team to feature their rookies (1st-3rd rounders) more than Buffalo is doing. Spiller has exactly 57 touches from the LOS this season, Troup is a rotational guy, and Carrington barely dresses. To blindly chalk that up to being rookies is idiotic and not a good sign. When RW comes out and says it's going to be a 3 year thing, he's living in the past. He could provide the financial resources to be active and smart in FA, and that doesn't include signing the Robert Royal's of the world, to make this team better and faster. If they go light in UFA next season assuming a new CBA, they have no intention of putting a winning team on the field.

Oh look, another TBC thread that posits a theory and then follows with the OP blasting people for not bowing to his omniscience. Each SB winner since 1999 has done it primarily with: A. An outstanding QB or B. A game manager type with a stellar defense. And while this isn't an argument completely in absolutes, it's quite clear that a finding a long term answer at QB can make a huge difference. Like anything, there are exceptions to this, but a good front office with a high pick and in need of a QB will make the right pick. As for taking a QB or not, the proof is there: in the last 10 drafts, 8 teams have used the top pick on QB's. If rebuilds don't begin with QB's, what does a rebuilding team select with their top overall pick? Only MIA in 08 and HOU in 06 took anything but a QB, and those years there was no clear cut top QB at #1 overall.

If Russ and the marketeers can attract 35k ST holders next season, he and his staff are performing a miracle. Goodness knows their challege is exponentially tougher than it was when ole Buddy and Chan came aboard last off-season. The 2011 season slogan should be: "A season 11 years in the making!"

So now that Indy game counts against Fewell because the former interim HC is looking better than the current winless HC? You can't have it both ways. Either Buffalo is 6-10 last year and he was 3-4 or you're selectively pulling W-L totals to illustrate a weak point that it wasn't all Fewell.

Which is what some people said entering the season. No pass rush means difficult times for the secondary, which has exactly zero INT's in half a season. Lunacy is wanting a WR in the first round of 2008 and subsequently employing revisionist history to bemoan another long term respected poster because he didn't want another CB. How many of the 08 WR class are making strides outside of Desean Jackson? We all make observations that don't turn out right, just like personnel evaluators in the NFL (Bill Polian and Corey Simon or Belichick and his busts.) Doesn't mean that person lost all respect.

A necessity for consistent winning in the NFL of 2010.

Is it too early to call Chan Gailey and Buddy Nix busts? How about RW? He's a bust as an owner.

Jones is a younger version of RW, though with more flare for the dramatic. These owners who think they know how to run a team may be good businessman, but people like Mike Brown, Jones, Ralph, Al Davis, and to a lesser degree Bud Adams historically fail. But many of these men still want to control despite repeated failures. Go figure.

Gailey isn't as innovative as many fans thought. He's barely using Spiller, who now has 57 touches from the LOS in 8 games. As for Nix and Gailey, not all HC's and GM's are created equally. The teams with the best GM's get the best players and usually the best coaches. Buffalo has neither and needed to make emergency hires to save face when it became clear no one wanted to work in Buffalo. This is the direct result of RW making dumb moves in hiring Levy and then Brandon as GM. That, and career minded NFL executives don't want to work for someone who can't say where the team will be in 5 years. All of this adds up to 0-8, no end in sight to a debacle of a season, and the franchise's existence in question. Guess those people who didn't want to interview weren't wrong after all.

Give the Canadian press credit for discussing this subject: Canoe on Wilson article It's a hallmark of RW's teams that they be business first, second, and third. Winning is optional so long as a healthy profit is generated. Of course he and the others must speak publicly about winning, but is there a veritable commitment to winning on the field? Not really, but we're inundated with why the contract with Rogers was necessary and RW is on record as saying the infusion of cash won't go toward player salaries. No surprise there. So the team cuts player salaries 25M from 2010 to 2009, they continue pocketing Rogers' 9.75M per game, and the team is 0-8? Yeah, I'd say RW is winning but not the way fans want. Perhaps that's how they want it anyway.

RW will order Nix to take a QB plain and simple. And that'll occur even if Luck doesn't come out. So much depends on the team needs versus what's available and at this early juncture, there will be plenty of pass rushers to select from. For my money if a top QB isn't available and it appears there isn't a dominant OLT, take the best pass rusher who can play 43DE or 34OLB. But that would get the GM fired, because RW knows all about NFL personnel.

1. Chicago's OL was among the league's worst this season and Buffalo registered 1 sack and 1 QB hit. As bad as Buffalo's pass rush is, to put little pressure on Cutler considering Chicago's OL is demonstrative of how bad they are. And it illustrates how worthless Chris Kelsay and Reggie Torbor are at rushing the passer. I don't think they'd get to QB's in the SEC or PAC-10. 2. Jay Cutler is known for throwing picks, and Buffalo dropped a couple today. The secondary seems to go hot potato whenever a ball was up for grabs, but not getting a pick against Cutler illustrates how bad they are. Leodis McKelvin seems to be regressing in his 3rd NFL season. 3. Chan Gailey becomes pass happy quicker with each game: 18 rushing attempts and 51 passes. Chicago's got a good run defense, but completely giving up on the run is becoming a hallmark of the HC/OC. He's not the offensive genius a lot of gomer fans thought he was. 4. Demetrius Bell and Mansfield Wrotto got most of the snaps against Israel Idonije and Julius Peppers and predictably stunk. At some point the Bills must invest big time resources in an OT. I just don't see it happening, because the position doesn't sell tickets. 5. Up next is a Detroit team at home next week. The same Detroit that hasn't won a road game in more than 3 seasons and as bad as things are now, losing to the Lions would be a new low. 6. Aaron Maybin, we hardly knew thee. ESPN Boxscore

The fact that a gameday thread goes 10 pages should tell just how indifferent fans are becoming to this team. And maybe that's the plan.

good night irene

Crowd clearly enjoys the call.

Wow.