The Big Cat

So what?

The Daily News is a gossip rag that pulls no punches in their sleazy tactics. I don't care what your politics are, the Daily News, strictly from a journalism standpoint, doesn't even belong in the same conversation as the NYT. Why the distinction? Because if Mehta's article HAD appeared in the NYT it would DEFINITELY mean something. But it didn't. It was in the Daily News. So, like everything written in that sensationalist tabloid, it should be taken with a grain of salt. There's simply no disputing this, sorry.

Both scenarios are equally plausible, so fans have opted to choose sides.

If true, then it corroborates much of what we've debated for months now, but I'm not convinced Marrone's at fault. If he handed Whaley a grocery list for ground beef and taco shells only to have him come back with red sauce and pasta, then IMO Whaley was wrong.

...the possibility that part of the reason Marrone got so butt hurt was because he was making less money than Jim Schwartz.

Well, we're rapidly approaching the 20 year anniversaries of his Super Bow wins. So that's something.

I see. But none of these factors apply when Hackett gets virtually none is the aforementioned from Lewis/Manuel/Tuel/Orton.

I guess everyone calling him a Manning extension never noticed that Denver continued to win after going run-heavy once it became clear mid season that Peyton was on fumes. If you think he can't run an offense without manning you're flat wrong.

IIRC, there was never even an officiall conversation. Too many, iff you ask me. And paired with how frequently we were told Marrone was a respectedd, loyal guy, something doesn't smell right. Add in the season-long reports that "noboddy's job was safe," the behind the scenes reports that tensions at OBD were at a constant high, and this just feels like a mess. I think Terry and Kim made it clear the nuclear option was coming.

This isn't meant as a gotcha question because I was and I remain Marrone/Hackett agnostic: were you pulling for him out of Syracuse in 2013?

Guys, the 90's were really sweet.

Coordinators very rarely take a lateral move.

Jesus. Is it September yet?

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I'm curious what you think "urgency" looks like and also what you believe is so urgent.

Cool.

you hate Hackett but what you want Trestman? Okay.

You mean to tell me Trestman has had success where he's had adequate QB play and struggles elsewhere? No kidding.

Okay. The factual presence of rumors does not a situation make.

Listing out undubstantiated media garble does not a situation make.

Something something Jonathan Meeks. Face it, they all won't work. But who knows?

Marrone has already lay the we-need-better-talent-track with the offense line like he did last year with the special teams. The moment Schwartz was announced as the new D coordinator, I wondered if losing Pettine was a blessing in disguise. All three units needed an upgrade going into last offseason: Shore up the run D--check Clean up the special teams--check Stabilize the offense--swing and a miss The defense was enhanced by Schwartz AND with the infusion of new talent, namely Spikes. The special teams got to where the needed to be through new talent, thou it seems as though the unit will remain a work in progress: late TC signings of Schmidt and Carpenter, addition of Thigpen late in this season, etc. Going into 2015 only the offense needs addressed, really. But, just because we alleviated A LOT of needs last year, doesn't meant the path to fix the offense will be easy, thanks in large measure to Orton's big reveal. I expect us to be aggressive getting interior offensive lineman, at least one running back and at least one quarterback. But I don't expect a change at coach. The main reason is because we KNOW that unless Marrone ops out, the philosophy won't change. And given what we know what that philosophy is--pound the rock between the tackles, control the ball and set up our weapons on the outsid--is there a fan among us who believes we've had the personnel to carry this out? This is normally where fans will remind me that a good coach maximizes his scheme to match his talent. I guess the fans who want that are just **** out of luck. Marrone has an identity in mind, for better or worse, we want to be a ground and pound team. Let's just be honest about one thing: that while Gailey succeeded in masking deficiencies by scheming to maximize talent, he failed to produce 1.) an identity and 2.) a offense that was even above average. At least now we're tracking toward the former. Here's hoping we find the guys to get us there. And IF you were remotely pleasant, you'd be halfway tolerable. :-) What's hour point though?

I don't consider two guys at the same position "very similar." Sorry.

That something is having interior lineman who face plant every time they move more than 14" in any direction. That something is having interior lineman who face plant every time they move more than 14" in any direction.