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All these compalints about receivers RBs blocking OL schemes and Josh's struggles all have 1 common denominator

Improve a bit, but he will never excel at it comapred to those who turned that ability into muliple SB appearances and wins Thats my opinion and its why I feel Dorsey is the wtong OC for a QB like Josh

or maybe he needs puppy uppers

He isn't. Just like 99% of QB that ever play the game don't have that ability at that level. You act like anyone on the planet can do anything if they just focus. People have different strengths and different abilities, and some people don't have any. It is what it is. Josh will never be a presnap quick pass QB anywhere near the levels of Brady or Montana IMO But give Josh time with superior blocking and he will make teams pay.

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thats ok. You can have your feelings IMO chances are slim to none and slim is packing their bags. I said I would make my call in mid October, so I did. Its my call and nobody elses. I stick by it

Yes but if he has time he has time. He is never going ot be the QB that pre-reads and make plays like consistently like some great QBs do in that type of offense

.I said before the season by mid October we would know what this team was going to be. There is a chance of making the playoffs ZERO chance of going to or winning the SB IMO

Unfotunaltey money spent does not translate to a the OL we would like to see. Dawkins is average, and coming in to camp out of shape is no good. RT is ugly. Our center does ok but is not a stud either. the line is improved but still not good enough obviously. Josh needs more time and better overall pass blocking. Or he needs to be able to master the quick passing game by indetifying the D pre-snap. We have heard he doesn't do a lot of film study and that is because thats not his strength. Therefore you have to playt to his strengths, and that is something Beane and comapny are not very good at

If Josh has time to let plays develop he can pick apart teams. Its the quick passing game up tempo Offense that most of the NFL uses that is not Josh's strength IMO. Josh is never going to be a Brady who was a master at pre snap reads Receivers have more time to get speration with a stronger OL and pass blocking in general. Josh can find open receivers better.

Josh has never been quick to go through progressions. I beleive Dorsey's offence needs a QB who can disect a D before the snap and to go though progressions quickly. Which is why the lack of any serious investment in the OL and the over focus on DL has been questioned by many of us

Ken is Oil Josh is water. Dorsey could be a solid OC but Josh is the wrong QB for that Offense

I say its time... I would start trading away pieces that won't be here next year before the trade deadline. There is NOTHING that will change this season. Too many injuries to key players and a serious disconnect between Dorsey and Josh. None of this is fixable this year IMO.

Dorsey is pure X's and O's Josh is not. Dorsey may be a solid OC for a QB who can dissect a D quicky but Josh is a QB that does best off script. There is a serious disconnect...

how could you fit that under the salary cap ? or the rookie pay cap ?

I agree about the lack of forward vision for the Offense / Oline... I put that on Beane

The argument here is Dorsey lost or is he just not capable of scheming an Offense for a QB who doesn't watch much film and seems at his best off script. Josh is a great QB but standard X's and O's I do not think is where he shines. Dorsey might be a great OC if he had a QB who could read the D pre-snap at a higher level. I love Allen and want his to coninue to be successful here.... Is there an OC out there that does best with a QB who does his best off script. I believe they're out there, unfortunately I don't know who they are, but that itself would be a interesting conversation. I will say there is less that 1% chance Dorsey gets replaced this season. Just to late to draw up a new offense and teach it to the team

Comparing him to Frazier he is an improvement. Cosidering the injuries we've had he still has the D playing at a solid level

He is doing a a great job with the defense. I think McDermott might have to make the decision to find an OC who can design an offense more suited for Josh. Dorseys X's and O's aren't really working for Josh

Josh does need to master the short game. It is his weakness. This could be Dorsey's X's and O's because I've seen to many times this season where Josh is trying to squeeze a quick pass into a very very narrow window. That being said he should take the 5 - 8 yds and slide when the play breaks down more often. He just needs to learn to slide and not take the hits

There has been a dozen times this season where I thought Josh should of taken the 5 to 8 yds in front of him and slide. The sliding issue has been the issue and the trying to much. But I would like ot see him take those yards when they are there. But he also doesn't seemed to be dialed into the X's and O's that Dorsey draws up for him. He is best when a play breaks down. Last few weeks I've seen Josh trying to squeeze the short underneath game in triple coverage. SO either the X's and O's are not drawn up correctly or Josh does not recognize the open man when he surveils the D before the snap in regards to the quick passing game

200% agree.... This team does not have the depth to fill these holes, and does not have the salary cap room to get top players at this point. It will be a long year.

see the 2 bad games then get back to me. Last year he had no answers in many games too You can see what you want but I'm not overly thrilled with him and we shall see how it plays out. He does lack consistency.

Dorsey is very inconsistent, and seems to lack in game adjustments We will know exactly where Dorsey stands by the end of the season. We have had 3 good games and 2 bad ones on offense this year. Not all Dorsey's fault on the bad but I still have concerns.

Now the question is, what are we doing wrong? If Zack looks like a different player somewhere else and we still struggle to produce a RB who comes close to that production whats the issue here.