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I thought Buddy said Fitz has got to do something or the bills are going to do something because you can't pay that kind of money to a backup.

I'm with you also. Jones, Lacy, qb, wr, wr would be good with me. Find the rest (te, cb, s, lb) in low cost free agents.

Nice You sir, are my hero! I'm on 5.

Don't know the players well, but sure. The idea is second tier guys. I think the list would also have to include former jets/ravens defenders, so maybe Jim Leonard and/or C pace/Bart Scott? If they went for someone on the first tier maybe Ellerbee with a consolation of Pace?

A cb, te and lb or two in fa would take a lot of pressure of the draft, that's for sure.

To that point, I think having (and keeping) a franchise qb would mean spending a lot more money. Would season ticket holders pay more money for the care and feeding of a franchise qb? Seems like Ralph has said no they won't for most of his ownership. Seems like Brandon and Buddy are going to try and find out.

There's a max? What's that number?

Just one thing about comparing the two teams is that the Pats* have not had to face a good qb in order to win the division (since ???) and therefore I don't think they needed to worry about db as much. I will also say about Lynch that, if I remember correctly, he did not show up for any volunteer OTA's. Not the impression you want to make with a new front office and coaching staff. I've heard via interviews from of a lot of the guys that have resigned with the Bills about how they believe in what Buddy is trying to do. When you don't show up to learn the offense I think you're showing you don't care and since the new OBD had no ties to him they didn't seem too broken up about it. Regardless of talent.

If he checks out between the ears, ogletree is on the field in place of Barnett which is >90% of the plays. So that has some value, although in general I agree with you that the pass rusher is more important. I just think our team will place more value on ogletree because of our needs, right or wrong.

I think I would be okay with Lacy in the second.

I hear most of the experts think this draft class is all about huge projects. Glennon has some raw skills that could be useful down the road so I think it matters where you get him. I have a funny feeling after missing on cousins/wilson we'll be taking a qb before we probably should, which could translate into taking Glennon in the second.

My fault. I was thinking prepared as in being calm, not as in getting the pitchforks to the front porch.

If you say so. If I wasn't so lazy I'd put a poll up to see how many people would be okay with Milliner at 8. I'm guessing less than 50%.

The jets took Kyle wilson in the first (2010) even though they already had two starting corner's. So this board should become prepared for the possibility.

I'm out on Barkley. I did not watch 2011 film, but I was not impressed with the 2012 stuff. My general thoughts were too many picks and indecisive under pressure. He had a couple nice wr's too and they didn't seem to help him very much.

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With him being the top guard out there I don't think fair will play into the equation. It probably does for the bills and what they're willing to offer but all it takes is a couple teams to show interest. Look at Dockery/Steinbach a few years ago and those contracts were with two of them on the market - someone is going to make AL an offer he can't refuse especially with all the offensive minded coaches that were hired this year and the cap space some of these teams have.

Or he thinks there is enough of a foundation of talent that he can afford to use picks to move up, as he mentioned during one of his interviews this past season. I think it was one of the wgr interviews. Or you could look at it your way.

So you were disappointed the contract he signed wasn't bigger?

I think you have to consider Moats as a 3-4 olb but he isn't enough.

Nice. Maybe open up enough room for a FA?

I don't know about his time pre-steelers, but the steelers oline didn't have high draft picks at the tackle position for Arians. Picking Luck was predetermined so I don't think Arians' Indy time would count, but I think Arians would lean toward taking a qb over an OT.

I'm fine with decided to go in another direction. When fall comes, that direction needs to be headed toward more wins.

Question will be what, if anything, we'll give up to get Geno. If he makes it past Philly maybe we start calling?

But I think it's the point of player evaluations by the new staff to look at each player and decide what to do before training camp and really OTA's. That's the point of it, why bother if you're just going to keep everyone and see how it plays out. They chose not to work with the defensive players they cut also, and that doesn't mean they are bad players but the staff just doesn't see the same value in what they bring to the table, regardless of what the fans see. It's up to the coaches to get production out of who's here. I thought I remember Buddy/Chan not dumping a lot of players when he came in, at least compared to when Marv/DJ came in, even with the change to the 3-4.