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With him being the top guard out there I don't think fair will play into the equation. It probably does for the bills and what they're willing to offer but all it takes is a couple teams to show interest. Look at Dockery/Steinbach a few years ago and those contracts were with two of them on the market - someone is going to make AL an offer he can't refuse especially with all the offensive minded coaches that were hired this year and the cap space some of these teams have.

Or he thinks there is enough of a foundation of talent that he can afford to use picks to move up, as he mentioned during one of his interviews this past season. I think it was one of the wgr interviews. Or you could look at it your way.

So you were disappointed the contract he signed wasn't bigger?

I think you have to consider Moats as a 3-4 olb but he isn't enough.

Nice. Maybe open up enough room for a FA?

I don't know about his time pre-steelers, but the steelers oline didn't have high draft picks at the tackle position for Arians. Picking Luck was predetermined so I don't think Arians' Indy time would count, but I think Arians would lean toward taking a qb over an OT.

I'm fine with decided to go in another direction. When fall comes, that direction needs to be headed toward more wins.

Question will be what, if anything, we'll give up to get Geno. If he makes it past Philly maybe we start calling?

But I think it's the point of player evaluations by the new staff to look at each player and decide what to do before training camp and really OTA's. That's the point of it, why bother if you're just going to keep everyone and see how it plays out. They chose not to work with the defensive players they cut also, and that doesn't mean they are bad players but the staff just doesn't see the same value in what they bring to the table, regardless of what the fans see. It's up to the coaches to get production out of who's here. I thought I remember Buddy/Chan not dumping a lot of players when he came in, at least compared to when Marv/DJ came in, even with the change to the 3-4.

I'm having flashbacks of the wailing and knashing of teeth from when we let Josh Reed go.... Would you take Chan Gailey and David Nelson or Marrone and a couple decent pass catching tight ends? Seems to me that those routes against lb's/safeties will be taken by te's in Marrones offense and the number three receiver will need to do a little more. Can anyone tell me why with all these wonderful measurements Mr Nelson didn't get the #2 spot locked up in the 2011 season and beyond?

That may be true of nfl boards, but early in the process phrases like "if he's there at 8 you have to take him" were bantied about on this board. I thought at one point (kiper?) had him top 5, maybe even close to #1 overall? Mayock was right in that mix also, and he saw every game so it wouldn't suprise me that coming out of the end of the regular season T'eo was pretty high (top 10) on some nfl boards, maybe not all of them. I agree that his other games were not that impressive athletically, but he does seem to have a good set of instincts. I also agree with you that he is more of a 2nd/3rd round player. I think he is probably best suited to being the run stopping ilb in a 3-4.

If you're going to do it, may as well get their 2014 1st rounder for the 22nd overall and maybe a 3rd or 4th this year.

I'd rather see this next year. Seems like the talent pool is deeper and the chances are better.

Since he is back (and Corp) I think there's an idea of who liked him and who didn't.

Question is what do you pay him, just as it was with D Bell. Moore probably wants to see what the open market holds for him while the Bills want to pay him what they see - a backup DE with some promise. And that's assuming Pettine sees a role for him in the defense which may not be a given. So really, what do you have at DE? Williams, Anderson and Kelsay. Maybe some other players depending how Pettine stacks them, maybe a rookie or a FA.

Now you're just being silly. There will always be something to complain about. Always.

I don't think merriman or moore are currently under contract.

Well, I think if we do that and start him it could be a good way to pick high again next year. So there's that....

I think it's going to be a very interesting draft with regards to the players taken. Everyone's talking about all the defensive talent, but with all the offensive coaches hired this offseason I wouldn't be surprised if the offensive players are overdrafted in the first round. It seems most of the front offices are looking to improve their offenses instead of their defenses. It may leave a decent lb for us in the second round, but maybe not a wr or qb.

I remeber when they drafted him Buddy mentioned safety was a possibility but they wanted to try him at corner first. http://www.buffalobills.com/media-center/videos/Buddy_Nix_on_2nd_Rd_Pick_Aaron_Williams/475aa86b-553e-4568-b4f6-ddd5df7b8ef1

Sure, let's go db/db in rounds one and two this year

According to PFT, we tried to pick him up but didn't have waiver priority. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/24/jaguars-put-three-on-ir-claim-pair-off-waivers/

I thought occurred to me - maybe he spent a large amount of time studying for his classes instead of extra time with the football side of things.

Thanks for taking the time to put this together. I haven't looked at his gamelights, but it seems to me everything under the bad section could be attributed to doing the "above and beyond" work that's needed in the nfl, practicing the little things until you don't have to think about it for example. If he has the physical tools, it sounds like he would be an extraordinary 3rd qb so that if he gets it he could be a valuable member of the team.

I agree with you on Nassib. I'm hoping that Marrone's system will make whatever qb we start in 2013 better, but I'm hoping for a free agent to compete with Fitz and drafting a guy later to hopefully be a backup. Then get someone in the draft next year.