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Here is the logic. Shady would not be happy with 5 carries and we don't need the distraction.

Daniel Jones would have been a winning QB at Oklahoma, but he decided to stay at Duke instead of transferring like someone else did. (TTech and Baker) No idea if Jones will pan out, but an idiotic thing for Mayfield to say.

I do not disagree with your premise, but your point about Barry Sanders is not correct. https://www.profootballhof.com/news/hall-recall-barry-sanders/

In case you don't make it to the regular season... Been real.

Ding ding ding! We have a winner!

It has been three and my point remains. We had the #1 pass D last year and the O does not look lost. This is progress!

30 and I'm taking the under.

Sorry I did not make the sarcasm obvious enough... Perhaps the O for the first time in a very long time is legit. I am shocked at how well it sounds like they are playing.

For the last 20 years without exception we have heard that "the D is always ahead of the O at this time of year." ??? Or is it maybe that....???

Except as stated this was 3rd down the entire practice. 52% would have led the NFL last year for some perspective. *52% conversion rate

LOL at this.

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Sweet.

Pats keep winning so it appears as if rigged.

This is why I set Allens extremely impressive sack per attempt data alongside of this. Post injury he was sacked 7 times in 181 attempts. This did not include drop backs that turned to scrambles that went for positive gain. I did not intend to do an exhaustive analysis on this, but simply to bring up a couple of points that I had not yet seen brought up.

Exactly this. People have such tunnel vision on completion percentage, the whole picture is impossible for them to see. There should be some sort of scrambling metric that takes into account sacks per drop back, first downs gained, third down conversions etc etc. There is certainly efficient scrambling and bad scrambling that leads to high sack %.

I'm sorry. I did not know that looking at things from a different perspective was against the rules.

Scrambles should also count as drop backs and that would greatly shift this favorably in Josh's favor. No easy way to do that without watching every play.

Agreed. Another way of looking at it is that he is taking a negative play via sack 1/26 attempts. He is making a positive play via Arm OR Feet about 63% of the time. Obviously these are approximations and we can argue on the minutia.

The way that I am looking at it is that there is not much difference between Brady completing a 10 yard 1st down pass and Allen running for one. When it comes to his overall impact on the game. Scrambles for zero and negative yards are counted as sacks already.

LOL and neither do you. ?

I am not skewing anything to fit any narrative. I was simply trying to combine Josh's impact via the running game in a way that would be more reflective while comparing him against other more traditional QB's. If you can come up with a more fair way to do it.. Have at it.

In the vast majority of cases negative runs are counted as sacks already. Beyond that, the purpose of this was to try and get an overall effectiveness including his running in order to more accurately compare to those who do not run. If sacks were included as incompletions all QB's stats would have to be normalized and that doesn't really change my point.

For the purposes of this I counted each of his 89 rushes that were not sacks as a completion and an attempt. I combined his rushing and passing numbers in a way that better shows how effective he was overall as a QB as he brings more to the table obviously than just passing.

1st one is pretty obvious, Bills were 5-5 in Allen's last 10 starts with garbage all around him. If Clay catches the TD that is 6-4.2nd one isn't so obvious, but it something that I always pay attention to with QB's. Sacks per pass attempt.Bills QB's have been atrocious at this forever while Brady, Manning, Brees, Rivers, Rodgers etc have managed to get the ball off without taking the big negative play.Josh really excelled at this after returning from the injury. 181 pass attempts and only sacked 7 times. That is a sack taken every 26 attempts and an outstanding ratio.My plan of action for next season would be this:FA CFA RTFA #2 OR Slot WR.DraftR1 Trade back and pickup TJ Hockinson TE Iowa. If no trade back is available take him at 9.R2 Guard or WRR3 RB or whatever wasn't selected in R2 (G/WR)Do this and we are a playoff team. To add some context to the sack numbersPass attempt per sackAllen 25.8 Brady 19.8PManning 30.9Brees 24.8Rivers 17.0Rodgers 13.3Favre 19.4Recent Bills QB'sTuh-Rod 9.5Fitzpatrick 10.5Manuel 12.5Losman 8.8Bledsoe 14.4Johnson 5.7Flutie 20.1Kelly 14.8 I will add one more interesting stat about the overall effectiveness of Allen last year.People have talked about the completion percentage ad nauseam and I am not going to go into that.But if you add together the passing and running numbers from Josh to get an idea of overall effectiveness it comes out something like this.258/409 for 63.0% 2705 yards 18 TD's and 13 INT's/FLI really believe the future is very very bright.