Dr. Who

Thank you. I went over to their website. Too busy for me. I've no idea how credible these folks are. Perhaps others with better knowledge can comment.

You're the second person to chime in with this idea. Where are you hearing this? On what basis are you making this assertion? I'm not questioning your veracity, but I don't think asking for your source is too much to expect.

Marte Mapu, S/LB hybrid Sacramento St, 6'3", 217 lbs, Bills met with him.

That is great if true. All I was trying to say is you can't know how much DHop would add to the cap until you know how much salary AZ is retaining, though perhaps it's more complicated than that.

You make pronouncements like the Ravens without explanation. It's needlessly confusing. Are you making a declarative affirmation or speculating? If the former, what is the basis? If the latter, something along the lines of "I think he might end up with Baltimore" clarifies the nature of the assertion. I answered "Rosebud" to one of your prior brief statements as an allusion to the enigmatic ending to Citizen Kane.

I might take Sewell at 130. He looks to me more like an old school thumper with very little coverage skills, so I'm dubious about his fit.

It might not be. I am unclear if AZ can be induced to eat some salary given they would lose 8M if they simply end up having to cut him. That could ameliorate some of the cap mess and make a trade more appealing.

You've got 34, 59, and 91 to address needs, no? Still wouldn't use an early pick on MLB. Part of that is dependent on how much if any salary AZ is willing to eat as part of the trade.

I like that, too. Although Oliver has underperformed his draft status, I still think he brings value to the team, so I'd rather retain him and try a combo of mid-rounders (likely to include a 2024 pick), unless shedding his salary is necessary to fit Hopkins under the cap.

Maybe where he's at it's like this. I think folks surmise that if the trade talk has any legitimate basis, then a financial path to make it work has been figured out. I agree on the surface it looks difficult, but I don't conclude from that that it is impossible. I agree that it is irrational to suppose that if it doesn't work out it means Beane is clueless or not diligently pursuing every available option to better the team.

You like to make definitive pronouncements without argument or explanation. It's kind of annoying. If you're guessing, say so. If you think you have a basis for that judgment, explain your warrant.

Those are my favorite round two targets for OL. I think Bergeron potentially has that same versatility.

If I had to bet anything I valued, I'd guess that fella is a fraud. However, I don't think all the smoke out there is fake news bouncing around an echo chamber. I suspect the Bills are a real possible destination for Hopkins.

I don't think he's a sure thing. There is some risk, but he's a legitimate difference maker on offense that adds to Diggs as someone the D can't ignore. So all in all, I'm for gambling he has a few solid years left in him.

No one will care if DHop is a key ingredient in winning a SB. I'm guessing you are skeptical he can be that kind of difference maker.

I think that's plausible. As I am not as high on Campbell as you and many others here are and I want to employ the early picks at different positions, I hope they are playing it straight when they say they are comfortable with the incumbents.

This poll remains ambiguous to me. I would favor a swap of 34 and 27 for Hopkins. That is conceivably entailed in the more generic trade back. I think including Oliver is too much. 1) It increases our need at DT where we already probably need to draft one. 2) I don't think the Cards would want him. They are trying to shed cap, not just redistribute it for a one year rental. 3) I think there's a possibility the Bills like Oliver more than many here do. In any event, he has more value as a player this year for a team trying to win a SB than he would elsewhere. In sum, I'm not keen on the specific option, but if the generic option is just a random trade back, I'll take a chance on Zay Flowers.

Well, maybe I am confused on what the multiple swapping of picks scenario presumes. I think the fella is proposing 27 for 34 to acquire Hopkins and 91 for 105 to get the Cards to eat some (more?) of Hopkins' contract. I don't know if the latter is necessary. I suspect the initial swap would include AZ retaining some contract. If they don't get a taker and release him, it costs them 8M for nothing. If I'm Beane, I begin by expecting AZ to take that much. Fella I was responding to was advocating adding a conditional 2024 pick to the 27 for 34 swap. I'm for the latter. I'm saying you shouldn't have to add to it.

There's a good chance AZ ends up having to cut him for nothing and they still have to eat 8M of deadcap. I wouldn't throw them a bone that isn't needed and I don't think it's needed.

It's like a third party candidate coming in and throwing the election to the party that is least like the others.

Oliver seems like an overpay and it increases the need at DT.

I am one of those who is not concerned with LB. I don't see it as a major hole like many do. There are fellas like Myles Jack out there you could sign as a FA after the draft that would be a decent stop gap. Klein is capable as a role player. If I go D early, I'm much more inclined to go edge or DT. Obviously, folks who are anxious about it think there is urgency to address the need. This is a draft where I would mainly concentrate on strengthening the oline and adding weapons for Josh.

I understand. I've been floating the Downs idea because I think he'll be a great slot and we still have uncertainty at the position. All that is dependent on a fella like Hopkins, because though slot is uncertain, I think we need a big receiver that is better than Davis more. If the Hopkins Downs scenario were to happen, Davis might thrive as a WR4. Joe Marino thinks that is where his talent best matches up. I would consider trading him to recoup a draft pick if the pick were high enough.

Bresee might be there. He could go in the first. Hell, if we don't trade back we might take him at 27. Personally, if you make that trade, provided they are available, I'd rather go with Josh Downs or Darnell Washington or maybe even Matthew Bergeron. I'd wait for 59 to take the DT. It's a pretty good draft at the position.

I like him, too, but that is an awful pick.