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Yes, and ultimately people in those positions want control. History shows us that, doesn’t it? The average guy who says “we’re not after your guns!” may be telling the truth, but some politician is always after your guns. In the big picture, lockdowns, mandates, civil fines, vax at football stadiums is all about control. 100%, can’t be disputed. Whether or not someone supports it out of fear for their safety, love of fellow man, whatever depends on the individual. I’m of the mind that when you cede control of your freedom, people in power are often willing to take it. The balancing act for us all is trying to figure when the fate of the world is truly in the balance and when it is not. In this case, it seems obvious that Biden has made partisan political decisions, as have other political leaders on the state level. Btw, just stopped at a coffee shop. Masks everywhere, signs everywhere. I get my coffee and go to the creamer table. The stirrers are sitting there, no wrappers almost begging to be pawed through. No one thinks that might be an issue? No one at corporate, the health dept etc?

No, Deek, they absolutely have the desire to act, the will to do so, and the willingness to sidestep messy issues like the law and the rights of an individual, but they have made the political calculation that it is not in their best interest to act at this time. It’s not cowardice, it’s strategy.

I saw that Sunny got lathered up, thanks for clarifying. The decision to push the envelope is viewed through a political lens. For all the hubbub and manufactured outrage over DJTs comments about COVID being a political event, it certainly was and has been treated politically. The decision to mandate on federal or state level would have to consider the health of the general public, the legalities involved, and the political impact on the voting block necessary to keep one in power. In this case, we’re being told one thing (the fate of the nation depends upon submission) but the process reflects another (“If we can save just one life of one person who works in an organization of 100+ people with certain exemptions for certain organizations!”) and the obligatory “This is so important we’ll develop a revenue stream capable of destroying an organization that fails to mandate a vax that is by definition voluntary!”. When you had in the historical vax hesitancy for people that traditionally vote Democrat, the general distrust of the pharmaceutical (and government in general) industry and big business by people of all political leanings, and the emerging power of that voting bloc, there is a significant danger in bringing the hammer down. Federal, state, it’s all about focus groups, political wrangling and relative risk.

What was the question, Deek? I’ll give it a whirl.

The more information that comes out, the more it reads like an out of control Spring Break rager. I’m thinking they needed some adults in the room, but the adults seemed not to give a &@$@ about reckless and wanton behavior. There are always the people who say things like “Hey! Live rounds would be fun!”. Where were the people going “Wait, That’s dumb as $&&@, we’re not doing that.”? There was no need for this to be a dangerous set, it sounds as if they cultivated an air of recklessness.

I’m typing on my cell phone, and it may just be that I’m distracted by my incredible windfall as an employer/earner on easy street so perhaps I was not clear. My point was that chaos and uncertainty have a negative impact on the equities market, at least in the short term. The fact that the economy was booming during the first 3, pre-Covid years of the Trump admin all while he was relentlessly hammered in the media reflected the overall confidence in his pro-business, reduce-onerous-governmental-overreach agenda in spite of the chaos. As for Biden et al, my point is that if the press coverage included 24x7 coverage on family corruption, significant mental decline, logistics etc, who knows what the market might look like today. I never said the media “coddles” Biden, and if you feel coverage is/was the same across the board I disagree but can understand your perspective. Still, the market does what the market does and we have 100 years of data to look at.

This is a fair question, and points to a larger question. I was watching NBC coverage on the Baldwin shooting, and the voiceover spoke to questions about security and protocol on the set. The reporter, a seasoned and recognizable individual on the show, leads off with something along the lines of “…It’s important to state that some safety protocol was followed, we’ve seen footage of masks being worn from the set…” before going on to describe the chaos on the set that dealt with the actual shooting and untimely death of a young lady. Perspective is important-I’m sure the victim was reassured that masks were in place as she took her last breath, but that’s a very small part of the story, if it’s any part at all. The equities market has done what it’s done through every US President since the 1920s. What seems to impact the market short term is chaos, and chaos is often generated by events and the coverage that flows thereafter. During the Trump admin, chaos was the order of the day for media reporting. From coveffe to Russians in the WH to Ukrainiamania to Bounties on soldiers to tax breaks for the rich to accusations of Treason and on to DAILY COVID DEATH COUNT and everything else. Interestingly, in spite of the chaos being reported, the economy was roaring. People were working, unemployment was down, and money was being repatriated and spent. Now, there are plenty of warning signs that the $$$ people have is spread very thin, and coupled with the oft pronounced fact that most Americans are 90 days away from financial calamity. We have a president who seems not to know where he is most days, inflation kicking ass, people struggling, logistic nightmares, horrible mismanagement of the withdrawal from Afghanistan, death dismay and Americans left behind, the incineration of a family in Afghanistan by the US military, and COVID deaths remarkably high in spite of a hand delivered vax developed under the guidance of the prior admin. I’m left to wonder what the market might look like if there was adequate and wide-spread coverage of the nightmarish start to the Biden presidency on a daily basis. I’m also left to consider the amazing run the market went on during the Trump presidency in spite of the media messaging constant doom and gloom 24/7/365.

He has a brother?!

How trite. It’s like reading an easily-manipulated-über-enlightened 2nd year psychology major’s mid-term paper at any mid-sized college in the nation. Unimaginative. Unoriginal. Lazy. Boring. Uninspired. A+ work at many schools, so there’s that.

I’d be interested in the feedback of @oldmanfan on this story. He’s long been a supporter of the Fauch, and I’m quite skeptical of this story as it is laid out. It’s got all the telltale signs of being fake or grossly exaggerated—-beagle puppies, aggressively carnivorous sand flies and the grotesque removal of canine bark boxes. Still, I imagine science and research can be pretty nasty stuff to the uninitiated, and the Fauch seemed to have no issues at all partnering with China on research with potentially devastating consequences. What say you, OldieLocks?

I’ve enjoyed your posts on this subject in sort of an offbeat humorously irreverent way. That said, it’s possible we may be witnessing your descent into madness. I wonder if this is what it must have been like in the court of the mad French King Charles VI. Either way, I’m ok with it.

I’m simply a humble observer on this journey of life. But, yeah, sometimes maybe less is more. ✊🏻

We would all benefit from a Muptick in empathy.

This sounds very reasonable and it would be so universally awesome if folks applied this mindset across the board. Stop. Wait. Listen. Consider. Be empathetic. Judge if that’s your thing. Alas, that’s not the world we live in, and certainly not the course of action that the person at the center of this particular tragedy typically follows. It’s not the course of action of some, maybe many of his friends and associates in the biz follow, either, so it gets some traction nationally. Maybe something positive can come out of this, and people of goodwill will rush to withhold judgement after the next perp-involved shooting. I’ve always heard that for emotionally stable people, taking a life is incredibly difficult even if justified. We shouldn’t extend the benefit of doubt to folks just because they have name recognition or we feel that they know them because they play a good character on the telly. Sad indeed.

I figure he has issues, this guy. Beating up people, losing his marbles, and being married to the crazy hot cat lady who inconsistently affects a Spanich accent and thinks Boston is in Barcelona, he's got it pretty rough. He may just cop to the whole deal to spend some time in the big house for the p & q.

Sometimes H. Muppman you reap what you sow. Life can be cold, but it’s asking an awful lot of people to disregard prior comments and take the high road under the “Sure, he was a d bag to you but NOW we should all take the high road.”. Plus, these people seem to exist on a level most regular folks do not. Maybe it’s the 💰.

Ok one more. Oh, the irony! The only thing real on the set is the one durn thing that should not have been! I am not a gun owner, have no range experience at all, and I really think when the question boils down to “Who’s going to check?”, it’s got to be the guy pulling the trigger and everyone else who’s handling it. Sounds like it was,mah, the wild Wild West on this set. It’s a shame the young lady died, and it obviously never should have happened.

Oh the irony! The Boy Scout motto, “Be Prepared” would have encouraged ole Alec to, you know, be prepared! Instead, welp….

Again, the irony. A couple hours in Podunk, where they learn em early that delegating your personal responsibility can have serious and tragic consequences, probably prevents Alec from delegating his personal responsibility and the serious and tragic consequences that followed.

Now I’m confused. In an earlier post you seemed to indicate the right and left had reached an agreement, and then later you indicated that the sum total of your previous post was to quote So Cal Deek. Now it seems you’ve abandoned the premise of both posts, suggesting at least one “right-slanted” poster (the affable leh-nerd skin-nerd) isn’t at all in agreement with you, while also acknowledging that your “I only posted another persons quote” wasn’t quite truthful. This after I went and apologized. What a bust. I never suggested anything about anything being ok because everyone does it, but now that you mention it, it is odd to me that this is a hot button issue for you. I haven’t read the TOS, really have no idea what might be in there beyond the obvious things that can get a fella into trouble on a board like this. Let’s assume you’re correct. Now that you mention it though, I think it must actually be “ok” because so many people do it without consequence. I guess I’d see it like driving 69 on the thruway v the posted 65. Maybe someday it won’t be treated like that, but for now it is, wouldn’t you agree? I disagree with your thoughts on DR, I thought he was an outstanding poster. I also think that when the decision to ban him was made, the site owner explained why things went down the way they did and I accepted that. Using my speeding on the thruway analogy, while 69 might be ok, 80 likely will have consequences. I never met the Rhino, my only interaction with him was on the board, but I enjoyed interacting with him. Still, if you go 80, you go 80. He’s moved on, some here have not. Right now, it just seems to me that while some posters drive 65, some 69, and some 80, you’re the guy sitting alongside the road in camouflage with night vision binoculars and an abacus calling into the Trooper barracks when your calculations project a speed of 66 or higher. Have a good night.

It’s really quite ironic that a guy who publicly disparages the actions of officers in serious jeopardy, and who tends to resort to fisticuffs in disputes, is responsible ultimately for recklessly discharging a weapon in what amounts to a glorified high school production of Oklahoma.

Well, to be accurate, I referred to your post as pathetic, not you individually. You could be a front line worker at a hospital, a law enforcement officer keeping us safe, or a custom dress designer for AOC—all noble professions and all helping the public in some unique way. I try hard not to insult people personally, so I’ll shoulder the burden if that is what you thought and apologize. I don’t think you’re pathetic, Back, and Deek is a good poster. Continuing on the accuracy trajectory, you didn’t just quote Deek, you quoted, referenced a poster gone a year as some odd comparison to B, declared that consensus has been achieved, and opined that another member of the community should be removed from the board because you don’t like the content of his posts. Here, and on the main board, there are hundreds of posts including links to any variety of sources on any given week, and if you’re going to be the board school marm pointing out perceived TOS violations, you have your work cut out for you. I just felt that in the moment, it was quicker to refer to your post as pathetic.

Exiled Dude, they literally go through life pretending to be something different (oddly, they pretend to be cops and awful lot, though some don’t seem to like the real ones). Is it so much to pretend to be someone who knows about gun safety? I’m going to take a flier on your ‘Police set up AB’ theory. It may ultimately have legs, though I always wonder why they wouldn’t just shoot AB if they really wanted to f with him. I had typed something else but it occurred to me that every time Hollywood just about convinces me that guns are THE problem, they change it up and tell me it’s actually union flunky we have to worry about.

You’re thinking it that the law enforcement community had the ability to set him up, and that someone put a live round in the gun in order to have him shoot a cinematographer?