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Of course this isn’t true, but what is nice to see is that the defense is starting to close out the game when Allen steps off the field with a lead. That wasn’t happening earlier in the year but has been happening lately. We’ll see if it continues against the better playoff teams.

I wish I would’ve put a huge bet on the Bills to win the East when they were 6-6 and the Fins were 9-3. Wonder what the odds were then…

I’m not sure we have any Allen “haters,” those who criticize his play just want him to play better. We go as Allen goes. If he’s on his game we can and will win a SB. If he’s off, we lose, because it’s likely he’s making plays for the other team. Criticizing and wanting more isn’t “hating.”

Allen blindly threw the ball to Davis yet it’s Gabe’s fault. Sure. Cook dropped a TD pass, yes, but Allen also overthrew a wide open Diggs, a point you conveniently left out. We WONT win a SB if Allen can’t raise his level of play. His supporting cast doesn’t always come through, but he’s gotta play more consistent.

A lot of people on this board like to say “there’s not a single other QB in the league I’d take over Allen.” I’m not as committed, there’s a couple other guys I’d rather have.

Where is @CincyBillsFanto say that Allen’s play is the least of the passing game worries?

If Tank Dell and Nico Collins had Gardener Minshew throwing them the ball you wouldn’t know the names of either one of those guys. It’s the QB. Credit to both for making plays when the opportunity presents itself though, they’re clearly on a higher level than Sky Moore, MVS, and Kadarius Toney, guys who do almost nothing but drop catchable passes. Allen’s receivers have dropped the 7th highest percentage of passes, so they’re not doing him the best of favors either.

They’d both be no names if Stroud had busted. Luckily for them he’s having an unprecedented rookie season.

Nowhere near as far. Stroud’s TD pass would be more comparable to the bomb Allen hit to Davis against KC in the divisional game.

I didn’t realize his usage had fallen off that much, especially to the bolded.

No he didn’t. There seems to be a common denominator here, doesn’t it? The Dorsey offense averaged almost a full turnover more per game and had less of a commitment to the run game. The Brady offense has taken the ball out of Josh’s hands. Less turnovers, more rushing attempts, both by the QB and RBs. I don’t think either OC is to blame for the pass game execution because both have/had “NFL open” routes, but whether it’s a missed read, a bad ball, a bad drop, or protection issues, they haven’t been able to capitalize. It’s on the players first and foremost, no coordinator has “broken” the pass attack.

Brady doesn’t throw the ball. Even Josh admitted the passes didn’t feel good spinning out of his hand against the Pats. He missed a few open TDs. He also played rather mediocre against the Chargers in another “gotta have it” game. All Brady can do is scheme up the offense and call the plays, it’s up to those on the field to capitalize on what’s available. And the offense has left plenty of points on the board.

It was a bad ball to Kincaid anyway. Allen opted to throw short rather than put that thing around the 5 yard line. If Austin hadn’t spun back around and instead followed Sherfield, the DB covering Kincaid gets to make a play on the ball because it was short.

Right now they’re the lovable losers, a franchise with likeable players starving for a trophy. If they can start cashing in and winning some championships, the hatred will rise with their level of success.

Second in turnovers to Sam Howell, but yeah the argument is sound. If he’s going to have that many turnovers, he also needs to almost single-handedly be the reason the Bills beat teams. The irony is that our offense has looked better under Brady since the ball has been taken out of Josh’s hands. Pass game still looks uneven though, even with an improved commitment to the run game.

I’d still take him.

Going into the last regular season game of the year, Allen ranks: 12th in completion percentage (65.6) 7th in yards (3,947) 11th in yds/att (7.3) 7th in passing TDs (27) 2nd highest INTs (16) 16th in passer rating (91.5) He ranks #1 in total TDs (42) 3rd in QBR (68.2) His receivers rank 7th in drop percentage (5%) and number of drops (27). If more of his damage was done through the air I think he would’ve been the odds on MVP favorite. If he had put on a show these past two weeks against bottom feeders Chargers and Patriots, I think he could’ve wrapped up MVP with a win and a solid performance vs the Dolphins. As it is, the award is Lamar’s to lose. Josh has been too inconsistent and the numbers/eye test bear that out.

I’d argue he’s an upgrade in most ways to Tremaine. If Edmunds was manning the middle this year, his play would definitely be a drop off from Bernard’s.

Too many inconsistent halves of football this year to be in the MVP race. There’s probably less than 5 games this year where Allen was hot from start to finish and was the primary reason his team won the game. Too many times this season we’ve said “run the ball more, throw less” yet the thought of taking the ball out of Josh’s hands would’ve been unfathomable going into this year. Of course the struggles haven’t been all his fault and even though he has great stats, he hasn’t been a Michael Jordan type of player who consistently rises to the occasion despite failures by his teammates to elevate their level of play. He’s just been a piece of the offense, who also makes critical errors and mistakes but also leads the league in TDs with a great assist to his legs. I don’t know if Allen will ever win league MVP but that’s not what I care about. Super Bowl MVP would be 1000x greater.

Allen was off for much of the Chargers game as well. Believe it was Kubiak in the BN that had broken down the reasons for it. He’s not playing MVP level football that’s for sure. He’s playing like a middle of the road QB and has more of those games this year than superstar play.

I don’t see KC finishing worse than the AFC South winner, so if Miami beats the Ravens, we’d be all but assured #6 BUF at #3 KC in the wildcard round of the playoffs. After beating KC we’d likely have to go to #1 BAL unless the 7th seed pulls an upset over the 2. A lot of scenarios still exist so it’s not really worth getting into now, but BUF at KC is shaping up as our most likely matchup.

Two of the other dominant OLines - Eagles and Lions - can say the same. It’s just a week to week matchup league, no OLine is a complete wall game after game.

Melvin Ingram and Chris Jones are the other two who always seem to play very well against the Bills.

Kincaid: “Oh we got hands (team)” Knox: “You’ve got hands (team) now, I don’t.” At least Knox was able to laugh off getting replaced on the hands team 😅 And yes, I know it was likely because of his injury, but I’d be surprised if they switch the two out moving forward.

The fact we beat KC in KC despite not playing particularly well for 2.5 quarters was extremely encouraging. The very next week they played well all four and stomped a SB contender. Biggest test and obstacle for the Bills is… the Bills.